No more preamp or sub for me!

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited April 2008
    I pretty much do a receiver as a pre also for convenience but wanted one with a decent pre section.The B&K works well for me.I guess alot of this has to do with how you match up your other gear.Some play well with others and some don't.Then there is the ever so sought after "point of diminishing returns",which is different for alot of folks.Sooner or later your ears have a sit down with your wallet.Glad your diggin on it though,thats what it's all about anyway.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    Yep, just keeping it sweet & simple. It's all good to my ears!! I'm a big fan of the KISS principle.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,570
    edited April 2008
    I'll give you 30 days max before you change your mind....again. :)
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited April 2008
    I got my money on two weeks.
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2008
    31 Days
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited April 2008
    I agree with HI. Pear won't make it to the end of April. But I ain't mad at ya!
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,570
    edited April 2008
    Hehe....Phil, we've got your number.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited April 2008
    How does the Nad do without the Krell amp Phil?
    Modwright SWL 9.0 SE (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Consonance cd120T
    Consonance Cyber 800 tube monoblocks (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC's with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Usher CP 6311

    Phillips Pronto TS1000 Universal Remote
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    I'll give you 30 days max before you change your mind....again. :)

    You son's of be-atches have been drinking too much of the audio kool-aid!! :eek: Me, I'm off the stuff now & couldn't be happier. You'll see I tell ya! :D
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    You son's of be-atches have been drinking too much of the audio kool-aid!! :eek: Me, I'm off the stuff now & couldn't be happier. You'll see I tell ya! :D

    "Once I got out, they pulled me back in." Resistance is futile Phil, just accept your fate like the rest of us.
    Venom
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    Midnite Mick wrote: »
    How does the Nad do without the Krell amp Phil?

    Hey Mike,

    The NAD T773 is one bear of a receiver. It was their top of the line until the new '08 stuff just came out. I ran a pair of Energy C-7 speakers for quite a while & had no issues at all. I never really tried it with my AAD's because I always had a 2 channel amp since I bought them. But, I'll bet if I ran them off the T773 I'm sure it would do them justice. The NAD can handle 8 & 4ohm loads without breaking a sweat. Hope this helps.

    And now that I'm also using it as a preamp...I am totally convinced that NAD is all about "the music". They just get it right!!
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited April 2008
    Due to financial reasons (primarily house renovations) I have been moving my gear. I have sold my Consonance ref 2.2 MKII player. I have a buyer lined up for my preamp and someone is interested in my tube amps.

    In addition I don't feel that my current speakers will be right in my new home. Therefore, I auditioned a few different speakers at my dealers and ended up purchasing a pair of Usher 6311's. I had a bit of an epiphany in that I actually preferred these to the 6381's (which are more in line with my existing speakers). They just sounded more musical and coherent. They don't dig as deep but I thought that I could get a sub later if I chose to.

    Since I have sold my HT gear a few months back also due to financial reasons I am surprised at just how much I miss it. Therefore if a receiver can do both justice I may have to look into it. Sure would make life easier....However, still will need some tube smoothness in the mix somewhere.

    At what model number do you feel that the NAD starts to drop off in sound quality. I have not seen the T773 for sale but have seen several lower models. I think I may hold off on purchasing anything as I need my money to go elsewhere but I like to keep looking and be educated.

    Thanks,
    Mike
    Modwright SWL 9.0 SE (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Consonance cd120T
    Consonance Cyber 800 tube monoblocks (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC's with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Usher CP 6311

    Phillips Pronto TS1000 Universal Remote
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    venomclan wrote: »
    "Once I got out, they pulled me back in." Resistance is futile Phil, just accept your fate like the rest of us.
    Venom

    Nope!!! I'm done drinking the kool-aid!! :)
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    Midnite Mick wrote: »
    Due to financial reasons (primarily house renovations) I have been moving my gear. I have sold my Consonance ref 2.2 MKII player. I have a buyer lined up for my preamp and someone is interested in my tube amps.

    In addition I don't feel that my current speakers will be right in my new home. Therefore, I auditioned a few different speakers at my dealers and ended up purchasing a pair of Usher 6311's. I had a bit of an epiphany in that I actually preferred these to the 6381's (which are more in line with my existing speakers). They just sounded more musical and coherent. They don't dig as deep but I thought that I could get a sub later if I chose to.

    Since I have sold my HT gear a few months back also due to financial reasons I am surprised at just how much I miss it. Therefore if a receiver can do both justice I may have to look into it. Sure would make life easier....However, still will need some tube smoothness in the mix somewhere.

    At what model number do you feel that the NAD starts to drop off in sound quality. I have not seen the T773 for sale but have seen several lower models. I think I may hold off on purchasing anything as I need my money to go elsewhere but I like to keep looking and be educated.

    Thanks,
    Mike

    From my knowledge of the NAD receiver line, the "Music First" philosophy carries thru the whole line. The only difference is in the amp department & maybe a few different minor features. Don't forget that NAD power ratings are the real deal & some what conservative. You can't go wrong with any of their receivers as long as you match the correct amp power to your speakers.

    Hey, and good luck on your house renovations. I know the feeling only too wel!!
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited April 2008
    Thanks, Phil.

    Soooooo much work. Can't wait until it actually somewhat resembles a house.
    Modwright SWL 9.0 SE (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Consonance cd120T
    Consonance Cyber 800 tube monoblocks (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC's with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Usher CP 6311

    Phillips Pronto TS1000 Universal Remote
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    Nope!!! I'm done drinking the kool-aid!! :)

    NOPE! You are still drinking it as long as you have the other pieces. Sell the Krell amp, the 840, the boutique cables etc., go to BB and replace them with off the shelf stuff. You will be done then, but how will it sound?

    I agree a lot of it is Kool-aid, but the stuff that isn't is addictive.
    Venom
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    venomclan wrote: »
    NOPE! You are still drinking it as long as you have the other pieces. Sell the Krell amp, the 840, the boutique cables etc., go to BB and replace them with off the shelf stuff. You will be done then, but how will it sound?

    I agree a lot of it is Kool-aid, but the stuff that isn't is addictive.
    Venom

    I'm down to drinking thru a straw now!! :D No more heavy drinking for me. I'll leave that to the other guys.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    I'm down to drinking thru a straw now!! :D No more heavy drinking for me. I'll leave that to the other guys.

    Baby steps.;)
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited April 2008
    C'mon Phil.....kool-aid ?

    Better rip down those sound absorbers....I get where your comming from though.:p
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    tonyb wrote: »
    C'mon Phil.....kool-aid ?

    Better rip down those sound absorbers....I get where your comming from though.:p

    There just comes a time when one must simply enjoy the music. Our constant quest for that elusive "perfect system" is really fruitless. There is always something out there that is better (very, very, subjective by the way). What we've all managed to put together, as long as it's pleasing to our ears, is a victory, sit back & put something on the CD player or TT & relish in the sound. How many amps, preamps, CD players, TT's, IC's, PC's must we keep going thru & yet we keep wanting more. Well, I for one am enjoying what I have & have stopped chasing my tail.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited April 2008
    Phil, congrats! I'm glad you've found your sound & can now enjoy it. I'm also glad you realize that you can never catch that tail no matter how hard you try to!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    Cathy, yeah, I'm very content & ready to settle in & just enjoy the tunes. I'll let the other guys keep chasing their tails & not getting anywhere! Sooner or later the lightbulb should go on!! :D
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,570
    edited April 2008
    How many times have we heard this from you? :D
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    How many times have we heard this from you? :D

    The lightbulb part is new!! :D
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited April 2008
    Pear -- almost a week has gone by. Surely, you've changed your mind by now.

    So tell us -- which preamp did you buy?
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    Early B. wrote: »
    Pear -- almost a week has gone by. Surely, you've changed your mind by now.

    So tell us -- which preamp did you buy?

    Nope!!! :D I'm truly enjoying my system just as it is. The NAD is terrific as a pre, I don't miss the CJ or the Krell at all. And after hearing what the velo has done for my system...there is one other item I might just go for down the road. Yep, you guessed it, another velo. I figure if one velo is this fantastic then two would be out of this world!! :D
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,570
    edited April 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    The lightbulb part is new!! :D

    What wattage? :)
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    What wattage? :)

    It's from cfrizz manufacturing co. Minimun 200 watts!!! ;)
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Phill, you just need a pair of speakers that don't need a sub for music!

    Yo Sal, nobody on this forum ownes a pair of speakers that wouldn't reap the rewards of a quality sub. Even those non-musical stadium speakers!!! :D
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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