Belles 350A reference

Ricardo
Ricardo Posts: 10,636
edited April 2008 in 2 Channel Audio
I am NOT selling this amp.

This was my amp; the guy that bought it is a re-seller or something. He listed it even before it was delivered to him. He must be in a hurry because he has been lowering the price almost every day. This is a GREAT deal and the amp is as new. It was upgraded to the reference version a year ago, with a new silver face plate.

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1212154432

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P.S. list price is now $5,000
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited April 2008
    Just curious... is he still making a profit?
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2008
    No, he's not. Losing 10% so far.
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  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited April 2008
    That's strange, losing 10% on a just purchased amp.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,557
    edited April 2008
    Strange indeed.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2008
    I know the history of this amp FWIW,,I've e-mailed the seller as of yet, I've heard nada. Great amp for a great price,,Ricardo,, do you know the disposition of the original faceplate?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited April 2008
    Sounds fishy to me.Who knows,this guy might put up a picture of the amp he bought from you,but might send you a different amp without the upgrades.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,498
    edited April 2008
    I’ve dealt with Dariusz a couple of times with analog gear and IIRC Joe has too. While anything’s possible, I don’t see Dariusz pulling a bait and switch. He has earned that 834 all positive rating.

    If your so interested in his motive, ask him.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2008
    The original face plate stayed with D. Belles when he made the upgrade.

    I don't think there's anything "fishy"; as Rich says, he has earned a very decent amount of positive feedback.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited April 2008
    I've done that more than once -- bought a piece of gear, then quickly changed my mind and sold it for less than what I paid in order to finance another purchase.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2008
    Just heard from the seller,, possible sale pending,, he will let me know tomorrow regarding the status. Apparently he's going with Pass Labs amplification with his system,,and he's got a possible link for me on another 350 reference.. He seems to be very legit,,and helpful. Just an FYI--FWIW.
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited April 2008
    Sounds legit. Good deal, go get it!

    There are a lot of people (countless on this forum even) that buy big ticket items, then change their mind and firesale.

    One thing we know for sure, this guy isn't much of a flipper on this deal :)
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  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited April 2008
    It's nice to know the original buyer (now the seller) is sticking to the original deal, even though he has changed his mind about what he really wants for an amp. Good man.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2008
    mightymouse wrote: »
    That's strange, losing 10% on a just purchased amp.

    It's called "wifey found out"...LOL
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  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited April 2008
    I think the wife will give him more hell if she found that he got rid of the gear at a 10% loss...:D
    steveinaz wrote: »
    It's called "wifey found out"...LOL
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited April 2008
    That amp is most likely my personal goal line. Appreciating the improvements on the way up is what keeps it interesting and somewhat affordable.
    At reasonable levels, did you prefer the original JFET setup or the upgraded Reference more powerful Bi-polar/Mosfet setup? In other words, at 90dB, with the ?dyns? was it worth the upgrade?
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2008
    It's on my short list,,, the synergy with an Audible illusions pre was just spectacular to my old ears. It will be my "final frontier",, just like Early's last/final speaker purchase. ;):)
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2008
    The reference version is better with bass. I also had a "hum" problem with the original version, that supposedly was very common.
    This is a very good amp, but in all honesty the Marsh I am using now has the same virtues, with only 120 WPC and at a fraction of the cost. My Dynaudios are 4 ohm/86db, and the Marsh drives them as good as the Belles.
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