set up help

leroyjr1
leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
edited April 2008 in Speakers
Hello I am new the forum and i just upgraded my surround sound speakers. I didn't have the budget to get what i really wanted but i did get a great name brand POLK. I purchased the monitor 50s for the front, cs2 for the center,and monitor 30's for the rear with psw125 sub ( all for $800 ). I have a denon 1708 75 watt per channel receiver and after reading alot of the posts about power and watts I was wondering to get the most out of these speakers will this receiver do or is there something else out their that will do a better job making these speakers sound good with in reason $$$$

I have seen a lot of posts about adding an external amp but alot of those guys are running $5000 plus setups. I am running this setup in a 18x14 basement in a condo. Please throw some good names and models for receivers and external amps that will make my ears and wallet happy. The denon 1708 i bought 5 days ago for $499.00 so if another receiver is needed i am able to return the denon.


thanks leroy
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited April 2008
    The only speaker that might need external amps are the front and center as they carry most of the sound load of HT. Some people buy 3 mono amps, others 2 channel amp and mono a 2 channel amp. I just sold 3 Outlaw M200 200wpc amps for $450 in the FS. That's some money but it doesn't get to the 5,000 mark. I sold them to get another amp. LOL My Denon, used those amps and my speakers sounded much better then with Denon's own power. Externals usually have more headroom the internal amps.

    Good Luck,
    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2008
    So should i just keep the receiver and add on external amps
  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited April 2008
    Personally i'd return that receiver and upgrade just a little bit to a model that has pre-outs. That way you'll be able to add an external amp down the road should you decide to upgrade your speakers.
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited April 2008
    +1 tcrossma

    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2008
    I would have to jump two denon models and add $700
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2008
    Are yamaha and onkyo receivers and good? I found the yamaha v661 has preamp outs and its less than my denon 1708. What are the top receiver brands
  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited April 2008
    I have a Yamaha RX-V2500 that i'm using as my HT pre and if I had to do it again i'd go for a Denon or HK. Are you saying that you'd have to add $700 to the $500 (for a total of $1200) to get a Denon with pre-outs? That doesn't seem right...
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2008
    The Denon 2808 is the start of denon receivers that offer pre out other than sub and that $1200
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited April 2008
    tcrossma wrote: »
    if I had to do it again i'd go for a Denon or HK. .

    I did the same thing but I started with a Onkyo. That's in my sons room.

    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2008
    Since this is going in your basement, I would spen your money on room treatments. It will not cost a ton, can be done in stages (or diy) and will help bring out the most in your speakers more than almost any amp upgrade could hope to do.

    Welcome to Club Polk,

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • MKZ
    MKZ Posts: 1,068
    edited April 2008
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    The Denon 2808 is the start of denon receivers that offer pre out other than sub and that $1200

    Try ubid.com.
    2307CI has HDMI and preout also.
  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited April 2008
    Is your goal 100% HT or is 2 channel music important to you?

    If 2 channel is important, you might have to upgrade the speakers eventually to the lsi series.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2008
    In the basement it 100% HT Sony 1080p projector with 101' screen(18 x 14)room. I have another polk denon setup in my main living room used for tv, music. I live in a condo so my living space is only 1600 sq ft. Maybe i'm just easy to please but the monitor 50 setup I have in my basement sounds outstanding to me (with on 75 watts per channel). I can't imagine what it would sound like if i threw the set up that you guys stated. Lsi25 ect. I would like to hear that setup to compare the difference

    thanks for all the help.
  • mark090852
    mark090852 Posts: 996
    edited April 2008
    Welcome to the forum, Leroy.

    You might want to research Harman Kardon receivers. Many of the HK receivers have preouts and are not very expensive. Check out Harmanaudio on ebay for refurb receivers. Full factory warranty and great prices.

    Here's the link: http://http://stores.ebay.com/Harman-Audio
    McIntosh MA252 Integrated Amp, LUMIN D2 Network Music Player, Yamaha Aventage RX-A840 receiver, Emotiva XPA Gen3 2 channel amp, Polk LSiM 703 speakers. Oppo UDP-203 Blu-Ray player, Polk LSiM 705 speakers. Polk Signature S20 speakers.