SVS SB12 or VMPS Dedicated

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,644
edited April 2008 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
So Im looking for a smaller subwoofer for my 2 ch adventures now...

Probally will purchase in the coming months, after seeing how Uncle Sam raped me on taxes, no real hurry to purchase!

However... Its hard for me to decide.

The VMPS is notably larger, and only comes in Oak Oak and Oak. Did I say it only comes in Oak? lol

SVS sports new drivers which Im unfamiliar with. The old ones were less than impressive to me for music. Especially after hearing the VMPS Largers.

The good news is, SVS offers a 45 day no risk try out policy. They pay return shipping as well. So if I don't like it, I can just send it back.

The up side to the SVS, which I like is it packs a good bit of power, its flat to 22hz in a chamber, its compact, and the amp is built in...

If I get the VMPS, I plan to get a compact amp with a crossover and a volume control on it...

But I know what the VMPS can do, Im more so trying to get feedback on this SB12...

I want something with tone and speed. I know VMPS has this, I know the older ISD and Ultra woofers did not. They perhaps had the speed, but lost the tone and voice of the music...

Any input is welcomed!
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    I have the SVS SB12+, but I don't have any experience with the VPMS subs to offer a comparison. I know that in a head-to-head test in my listening environment, paired with my Magnepan 1.6QR's, it killed the ML Grotto, and was about 80% to 90% of the performance of a REL Storm III. I don't drive my 2 ch system real hard (I'm in an apt and Magnepan's aren't real good loud music speakers!), but the SVS definetely keeps up well with the planar panels and is much more musical than my SVS 20-39pc+ or my pb10-ISD.

    You might also consider the new Polk DSW micro-pro subs. Very surprising performance from those little cubes!
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited April 2008
    Polk subs will have to hit alot lower for me to try them out...

    Thanks for your opinion on the sub. If they can keep up with planars, they gotta be a lil bit musical! ;)

    Thanks
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    I was very surprised by the SB12+. I had discussed it with SVS, and they were pretty much spot on with how they thought it would compare to the subs I had access to for the comparison. It's not a wonder sub or giant killer, but offers exceptional SQ and performance at the price point.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited April 2008
    I think next month...

    I am going to purchase an Epik Valor...

    I already started measuring where I would put it...

    Its less expensive than the SVS as well...

    More to think about!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2008
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I am going to purchase an Epik Valor...

    Funny - I was going to recommend one of those, but did not think it would fit into your small size criteria.
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited April 2008
    Is this thread an April Fool's joke?

    I, for one, will be waiting with bated breath to hear the outcome. This is really awesome stuff here!

    Join us for the exciting conclusion of. . . as Sid's Gear Turns.

    :)
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited April 2008
    find a Vandersteen 2W and end your search
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    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited April 2008
    Velodyne SPL-1200R. This puppy sings, it has the speed & balls to keep up with anything. Did I forget to mention it's very, very musical also. It put my SVS 25-31plus cylinder sub to shame.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited April 2008
    For a sub in music look no further than REL. If you audition one Trey you will know what I mean.
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2008
    Real men own REL subs :D

    I'm not yet a real man, but I'm working on it :o
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2008
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    find a Vandersteen 2W and end your search

    Pretty much.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited April 2008
    Go with the Epik Valor!!
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    Front projection, 2 channel, car audio... life is good!
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