how many amps will the LSi9 draw?

SlowcarIX
SlowcarIX Posts: 887
edited March 2008 in Speakers
just wondering how many amperes the LSi9 will draw at their max rated power? voltage too?
my 7.(1x4) HT setup
TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
Front - Emerald Physics CS2
Center - JTR Triple 12LF
Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2008
    SlowcarIX wrote: »
    just wondering how many amperes the LSi9 will draw at their max rated power?
    There are too many variables to give a specific answer.:)The impedance of the speakers,the program material being played and the volume levels etc make it impossible to quantify.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    Zero.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited March 2008
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Zero.

    because the LSi9 will be dead near max power?
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
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  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    No, I think doro is referring to the fact that by itself (with no music playing), the LSi9's will not draw any power. Power is only sent to the speakers once the music starts playing.

    SlowcarIX wrote: »
    because the LSi9 will be dead near max power?
  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited March 2008
    hmm...maybe the question should be what is the max current the LSi9 can handle?
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

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  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    I don't know if this is accurate. But from what I have read, you can never have too much power when it comes to amps. Speakers are more often destroyed by underpowered amps than overpowered amps.

    Underpowered amps will introduce clipping, and too much clipping will fry your tweeters.

    Although I have seen pictures of blown woofers, I am guessing those are the result of cranking up the volume WAY beyond tolerable listening levels.
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2008
    I don't know if this is accurate. But from what I have read, you can never have too much power when it comes to amps. Speakers are more often destroyed by underpowered amps than overpowered amps.

    Underpowered amps will introduce clipping, and too much clipping will fry your tweeters.

    Although I have seen pictures of blown woofers, I am guessing those are the result of cranking up the volume WAY beyond tolerable listening levels.
    Well said;)
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  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    Thank you.:D
    GV#27 wrote: »
    Well said;)
  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited March 2008
    If you were ever to hear an amp at its max rated power, your eardrums would rupture, your amp would blow a fuse and the circuit breaker would trip. Even though you may blast your amp, you are not really hearing its rated power, and no where near its max power.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,238
    edited March 2008
    SlowcarIX wrote: »
    just wondering how many amperes the LSi9 will draw at their max rated power? voltage too?
    Why do you want to know?

    The speakers themselves draw no amps. They determine the # of amps [and watts, voltage is constant] it will take for the amp to power the speaker and to answer your question as to how many amps they will handle? I dunno. Refer to my first question.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »

    The speakers themselves draw no amps.
    When reproducing a musical signal a speaker is drawing current from the amp.However because the signal is ever changing you cannot reduce the current to a single constant value.The speakers impedance and the frequency content of the music and volume levels are all varibles.
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited March 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Why do you want to know?

    The speakers themselves draw no amps. They determine the # of amps [and watts, voltage is constant] it will take for the amp to power the speaker and to answer your question as to how many amps they will handle? I dunno. Refer to my first question.

    just wondering if the LSi9 will ever draw more current than these ICEpower500ASP modules in my amp will put out

    http://www.icepower.bang-olufsen.com/en/solutions/speaker/ASP_SERIES
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2008
    SlowcarIX wrote: »
    just wondering if the LSi9 will ever draw more current than these ICEpower500ASP modules in my amp will put out

    http://www.icepower.bang-olufsen.com/en/solutions/speaker/ASP_SERIES
    With the potential to deliver 45amps on demand I don't think you have any worries.;):)
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  • Refefer
    Refefer Posts: 1,280
    edited March 2008
    GV#27 wrote: »
    With the potential to deliver 45amps on demand I don't think you have any worries.;):)

    +1. Remember, watts are the key benchmark which all speakers/amplifiers are held in order. After all, watts equals volts X amps, right? So long as it is rated at 4 ohms, and has a fair number of watts (remember you want overhead), you should be more than fine running the 9's.
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited March 2008
    GV#27 wrote: »
    When reproducing a musical signal a speaker is drawing current from the amp.However because the signal is ever changing you cannot reduce the current to a single constant value.The speakers impedance and the frequency content of the music and volume levels are all varibles.

    when an amp clips, what actually is most likely to happen? voltage or current limitation of the amp has been exceeded?
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
  • honda cber
    honda cber Posts: 267
    edited March 2008
    I don't know if this is accurate. But from what I have read, you can never have too much power when it comes to amps. Speakers are more often destroyed by underpowered amps than overpowered amps.

    Underpowered amps will introduce clipping, and too much clipping will fry your tweeters.

    Although I have seen pictures of blown woofers, I am guessing those are the result of cranking up the volume WAY beyond tolerable listening levels.

    well..... you *can* have too much power, though it isnt likely in a home audio setting. i have witnessed *several* sacrificial speaker "tests" (for lack of a better term), where our primary objective was to destroy the speakers. one notable "experiment" had a pair of aiwa bookshelf speakers hooked to a 1000 watt pro-style amp. there was distortion, but it wasnt coming from the amp. wow, did that ever stink, lol. teenagers do the damnedest things, you know.

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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2008
    SlowcarIX wrote: »
    when an amp clips, what actually is most likely to happen? voltage or current limitation of the amp has been exceeded?
    Clipping occurs when the amplifiers DC power supply voltages can no longer supply the full voltage needed by the output transistors during musical peaks.
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