What sparked your intrest in 2-channel?

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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,151
    edited January 2011
    Inagoddadavida

    Fly like an eagle

    Dream weaver...oh yea..:tongue:

    And most important one probably....."Blackwater" by the doobies.

    Jesus is just alright was an early reason to hear a good system too.:wink:
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited January 2011
    Some interesting life-stories above. But I can't really answer this question since nothing sparked my interest in 2 channel. I grew up in the period where albums came out in mono and Hi-fi stereo. My father, briefly having a mono Victrola? And by the time I was able to buy albums, well EVERYTHING was 2 channel!

    For me 2 channel was not anything new or something I was led to, it was the way things WERE! I didn't get into surround until I bought my first Dobly Prologic AVR an 800 dollar Kenwood...when they could still make something? And I didn't really know much of anything about Dolby Digital and DVD sound till the early 21st century when I purchased my first Apex DVD player and a Pannie AVR. I was amused by the HT revolution, but I continued to pursue the purist sounds I grew up with and would always judge, even my AVR equipment by 2 channel standards (it fell short, of course).

    Don't want to get into the history here. But, simply, that if you are of a certain age. Two channel is simply a default setting for you.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited January 2011
    the more you missed it, the more you tried to make it like home,,,long story short,,really got into 2 ch while I was overseas,,AR 2AX speakers,sansui 500x Receiver,Sony 366 RTR and then moved to a Teac 4010 IIRC
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • raffi
    raffi Posts: 114
    edited January 2011
    steveinaz wrote: »
    1971, Santa brought me and my brother a Lloyds 8-track stereo.

    +1...for Christmas in 1973 I got a Lloyds am/fm 8 track console and 2 speakers, and collected 8 tracks until...1977 my best buddy got a Pioneer turntable, Kenwood receiver and speakers. I quickly followed suit with a Pioneer turntable, JVC receiver, and Cerwin-Vega speakers and down the hole we went for the next 3 years until we ran out of $ (college).

    Fast fwd to 1989 when I have a job and some $ to spend on a Yamaha cd player, Denon receiver (when they were pretty good) and Polk RTA 11-T's. Only recently am I back in the game, and I'm in for good this time.:smile:
    2 channel rig: MMF 2.2 turntable, Adcom GFP-715, Adcom GFA-555, Adcom ACE-515, Carver M-1.0t, Denon 5900 CD/SACD, SDA-SRS 2.3s (Zardoss modded), AQ Diamondback & King Cobra IC's and AQ Type 4 speaker cables

    HT rig: Panny 50" G20 plasma, Directv DVR, Insignia BRD/DVD/SACD/DVD-A, Denon AVR-890, Fronts: Polk Monitor 70's, Rears: Deftech Mythos Gems, Center: Polk CS1, Sub: Polk PSW-505
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    Cool old thread...

    Fall 1970... freshman year of college... felow named Tim on the floor above me in ther dorm had a Fischer receiver - AR 3a's - Technics TT; all very shiny; all very articulate; often very loud...

    It made my Sears Silverstone portable stereo record player wet itself...

    Fall, '71 I had my first rig seen in this old thread... http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7347
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
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  • lanchile
    lanchile Posts: 560
    edited January 2011
    I have two ears LEFT and RIGHT, What else can I say eh?.Two channels is the way..not those gadgets with all that crab of DSP (digital sound processors). it is like having a good amp and using an equalizer lol.
    Left and right is the way!. Right now I am using a Bryston B60R integrated amp,cd player, and two RTi Polk Audio speakers. Happy as a clam:wink:
    Make it simple...Make it better!
  • Beta
    Beta Posts: 267
    edited January 2011
    In the early 70s my oldest brother handed down to me his 8-track/AM/FM receiver and speakers (can't remember the manufacturer). Shortly after my dad gave me his old Sherwood receiver and Lancer speakers. A few years later my mom and dad bought me a Pioneer SX-450 receiver. I still remember the price of $145.00. Next for a birthday my parents gave me a Technics SL 2000 turntable. Then for Christmas they gave me a pair if Genesis I speakers. Wonderful parents. Just took them to dinner tonight for my dad's 78th birthday.
  • Lumpwithgoodear
    Lumpwithgoodear Posts: 35
    edited January 2011
    :redface:Sheesh! I'm going to feel like a complete jerk but.... my first experience was with a Sears turntable with detachable speakers! After the RCA black 45 player it was the cats meow! GODS! :eek:I'm showing my age! That was back 1960! :wink:Lmao!
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    ^ The speakers swivled on pin hinges and were held closed by magnets, right? I bet it also had a pivoting, drop-down record changer... That's the Silvertone I mentioned a few posts up.

    I used to split out the speakers, sit them on the floor, lay down with my head between them and listen to "Sgt Pepper's"...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • Lumpwithgoodear
    Lumpwithgoodear Posts: 35
    edited January 2011
    :rolleyes:Tour sorry about that I didn't mean to steal your stereo experience ! lmao! I know what you mean tho , I used to lay of floor too and blast away! UNTIL my parents came storming in expecially when I started playing Dylan in later years! :wink: I really stepped up after that with my first high end stuff! Carver C1, Carver 1.5, and a set of RTA12's! OMG! The Silvertone ran out the door ! lmao!:tongue: Now after that I started to buy more and upgrade! SHEESH!:confused:You wonder somedays where did the money go! IN MY EARS!:wink:
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    Nah... you stole nothing. I was just relating... happy to see someone with similar roots.
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2011
    :redface:Sheesh! I'm going to feel like a complete jerk but.... my first experience was with a Sears turntable with detachable speakers! After the RCA black 45 player it was the cats meow! GODS! :eek:I'm showing my age! That was back 1960! :wink:Lmao!
    No need to feel like a complete jerk as we all had to start somewhere. My first rig when I was 8 years of age consisted of a Scott receiver, a rather crappy TT, some sort of cheap tape deck and a set of Scott speakers. All of them, hand me downs.

    Whatever it took to get you into the hobby apparently wasn't that bad. :wink:
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2011
    Long story but was about 14 and had saved up enough money to buy the stardard version of the Honda CB100. Well, I got a ticket for speeding and no driver license in a neighbors car.

    I was working so paid the ticket myself without telling my parents, thats a no no for a teenager.

    Judge called my dad on Saturday morning and siad if I was not in court in one hour there would be a warrent for my arrest. Dad woke me up shaking me say "what have you done this time".

    Well, motorcycle was out at this point so I bought an integrated BSR unit with TT. First album was Janis Joplin Pearl and Jimmy Hendrix Are you experienced.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    So the judge sentenced you to life in audio??? :cool:
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2011
    Since I was born in 1949, growing up at home there was only mono radios and record players, and later, in the 60s, a stereo, which is sometimes referred to as two-channel. Anyway, my father was really into recorded music, Big Band, and when he bought a Sears stereo my sister and I were given detailed instructions to not get anywhere near it. The stereo was a cabinet monster with a radio, turntable, and left speaker. The right speaker was in a seperate cabinet. To me, it seemed to work great, and was a technological marvel with beaucoup knobs and settings.

    Anyway, after learning how to work the stereo without getting caught (leave settings in exact original location, don't break it, etc.) I would come home after school and play my Chubby Checker album with my favorite song, "The Jet", cranked up. I loved that song, and really rocked out to it. Since both my parents worked, this was not a problem.

    So, one day I came home, was rocking out, and my mother was upstairs in bed since she left work early for being sick. Leason learned. Check to make sure nobody is home before messing with the stereo.

    But ever since then I have always wanted my own system to use, abuse, and enjoy. Of course, I am not married to two-channel. I love my 5 channel HT/SACD system just as much. They both have valid purposes, and both do their job.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited January 2011
    I thought it was the ultra modern way to go. Wrong,even w/ my KLIPSCHS' there is no comparison w/ watching movies.How many times beforethe movie becomes so played out. On the other hand w/ 2-ch you can have so many variations that you would never run out of tunes which can be played multiple times ,ie; Dead stuff w/ more coming out every few months.I went from H/T to 2-ch and couldn't be happier and I think prices arer lwreflecting this lwthread...
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
  • cristo
    cristo Posts: 231
    edited January 2011
    Stereo was a good improvement over mono.
    HT - not so much - unless I grow more ears.
    cristo

    NAD C 545BEE cd player, Philips AF877 turntable / Shure V15V-MR with JICO SAS stylus,
    Tascam 122 mkIII cassette deck, Harman Kardon 3480 receiver, Terk FM-50 antenna in the attic,
    Soundcraftsmen SE550 stereo equalizer, Polk Monitor 10a speakers
    (with Sonicraft/Solen/Mills crossover rebuild)
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2011
    cristo wrote: »
    Stereo was a good improvement over mono.
    HT - not so much - unless I grow more ears.

    What does this mean? Are you saying wthat with your two ears you can't distinguish if a sound is coming from in front of you, your side or behind you?

    So when you are listening to your stereo speakers everything seems to be coming from the speakers themselves? You would need a third ear to hear the center image?
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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,184
    edited January 2011
    Tour2ma wrote: »

    ...Tower by Angel. My dad walked in the room, saw me laying on the floor, shook his head and walked out.
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's
    Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
    Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
    SDA 2B TL's
  • arun1963
    arun1963 Posts: 1,797
    edited January 2011
    The desire to get the sound in my car close to perfection drove me to upgrade my home audio to:

    CD Player - NAD M5
    Pre : Naim NAC 252
    Power Amp : Naim NAP 300
    Speakers : Totem dreamcatcher
    Cables : Cardass

    My car is really close to this setup, all I need is a processor in the car and then we will see.....:biggrin:
  • cristo
    cristo Posts: 231
    edited January 2011
    Ricardo wrote: »
    What does this mean? Are you saying wthat with your two ears you can't distinguish if a sound is coming from in front of you, your side or behind you?

    So when you are listening to your stereo speakers everything seems to be coming from the speakers themselves? You would need a third ear to hear the center image?

    Personally, I find left/right separation (and that includes a full continuum,
    not just one left and one right point) to be much more important than
    front/back and above/below separation in terms of sound imaging.
    Two speakers and two ears can do a pretty good job with this*.
    There are reasons related to physics and physiology why this should be so as
    well, in addition to my personal feelings on this.

    To answer the last two questions, no, and no.

    *can do even better with SDA speakers or signal processing that does practiacally the same thing,
    but that's still essentially two speakers and two ears.
    cristo

    NAD C 545BEE cd player, Philips AF877 turntable / Shure V15V-MR with JICO SAS stylus,
    Tascam 122 mkIII cassette deck, Harman Kardon 3480 receiver, Terk FM-50 antenna in the attic,
    Soundcraftsmen SE550 stereo equalizer, Polk Monitor 10a speakers
    (with Sonicraft/Solen/Mills crossover rebuild)
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2011
    Tour2ma wrote: »
    So the judge sentenced you to life in audio??? :cool:
    You say that like it's a bad thing. :biggrin:
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    Could be worse... :wink:


    (... and then goes into a Young Frankenstein flashback...)

    How?

    Could be raining... :smile:
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited January 2011
    Polk Fest 05 at Troy house with those Amazing Caver speakers, and a CJ07 pre amp. And now I have that in my house more or less. :smile:

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited January 2011
    In the early to mid 60's when I was still a toddler my parents bought a beautiful console stereo. It was a Fleetwood with a Garrard turntable and tube amp. It sounded incredible and they played The Platters and Chubby Checker, Johnny Horton and Hank Williams Sr. records on it all the time. When I became a teenager and they were out of town, I'd have parties and just rock the house out with that unit. Then about 15 years ago it was given to me. I lived in apartment and didn't have room for it inside so it sat out on my covered deck for about 5 years. It took some major water damage after a storm and the beautiful wood (teak I believe) was ruined. I was thinking about restoring it but just thought it would be too much work so I hauled it to the dump one day and off loaded it. Now 10 years later I think about what an idiot I was not to salvage the tube amp out of it. I know it was very powerful and could play loud without excess distortion. Even the old Garrard turntable is somewhat collectible now. I scour garage sales, classifieds and Craig's list for another like it now. Now I'm restoring a 1961 Eico ST-70 tube amp and it has that beautiful liquid sound I remember so fondly.
    SDA-1C (full mods)
    Carver TFM-55
    NAD 1130 Pre-amp
    Rega Planar 3 TT/Shelter 501 MkII
    The Clamp
    Revox A77 Mk IV Dolby reel to reel
    Thorens TD160/Mission 774 arm/Stanton 881S Shibata
    Nakamichi CR7 Cassette Deck
    Rotel RCD-855 with modified tube output stage
    Cambridge Audio DACmagic Plus
    ADC Soundshaper 3 EQ
    Ben's IC's
    Nitty Gritty 1.5FI RCM
  • Flash21
    Flash21 Posts: 316
    edited January 2011
    steveinaz wrote: »
    1971, Santa brought me and my brother a Lloyds 8-track stereo.
    Heh, yep, my folks bought me a Lloyds 8-track when I was in junior high, and I have been upgrading ever since :biggrin:
    Steve Carlson
    Von Schweikert VR-33 speakers
    Bel Canto eVo2i integrated amp
    Bel Canto PL-2 universal disc player
    Analysis Plus Oval Nine speaker cables and Copper Oval-In Micro interconnects
    VH Audio Flavor 4 power cables
    Polk Monitor 10B speakers, retired but not forgotten
  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    edited January 2011
    ben62670 wrote: »
    You **** did it to me! I want my money, and my life back!!!

    Me too.....It just keeps getting worse. Like drug addition:redface::eek:
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,500
    edited January 2011
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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited January 2011
    I went back to 2channel gear after buying into the whole theater experience.
    At first I was impressed w/ the seperation and all the effects but there is a limit to how many movies you can own and even watching tv does not need
    total suuround if your amp is decent enough. I gew up w/ stereo and always apppreciated quality over some schlock stuff. One can mix and match and I do that all the time,but music goes through the2-channel rig.
    H/T
    Yamaha rx-v665
    Toshiba au 37
    Klipsch ht/500 w/ 8insub
    Denon 1940ci cd
    Yamaha ysd-11 dock
    2-channel gear
    Adcom gfa555
    Onkyo 301 pre
    Infinity sm112s
    Denon 1940ci cdp
    Dual 1229 turntable
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2011
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Reported post 152 (spam).
    Why do you report yourself???
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