LSi9 and Target Stands

mightymouse
mightymouse Posts: 254
edited March 2008 in Speakers
For my newly acquired LSi9's, I decided to purchase a pair of Target MR28 speaker stands. But now I am having second thoughts about this purchase. I am wondering if I should have gone with the Target HR70 stands instead.

The underside of LSi9 is 8x15, weighs about 32lbs each
Target MR28 is a 4 post stand (4 columns 2x2), top plate is 6x6 (although from Target's own webpage, it looks like the top plate is actually 6x8, I don't know if this is a misprint on Audioadvisor's part), bottom plate is 9x10, each stand weighs about 32lbs.
Target HR70 is a 2 post stand (2 columns 4x2), top plate is 6x8.5, bottom plate is 10x12, each stand weighs about 25lbs.


MR28
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TGMR&variation=28BLK

HR70
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TGHR&variation=70BLK


The only reason why I went with the MR28 is because the MR28 is the top of the line Target stand, while the HR70 is not.

But seeing that the bottom plate on the HR70 is about a third larger than the bottom plate of the MR28, I am wondering, given the LSi9's large size, 8x15, would the HR70 provide more stability to the LSi9's resting on top of the stands?


What do you guys think?
Post edited by mightymouse on
· Share on FacebookShare on Twitter

Comments

  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2008
    I use these for my Lsi9's, and they work great!

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SASF
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    The base on the Sanus steel foundation stands is about 11x14. Does it feel stable to you?
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2008
    25 lbs of #6 lead shot in the uprights of each stand, yep they're sturdy!
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    Maybe I went a little overboard with the Target MR28 stands. Oh well, you win some you lose some, after all, I did get a great deal on those LSi9's.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    dkg999, how do you manage to rest the LSi9's on top of the top plate? Your top plate is about 6"x8".
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2008
    I just use the points that come with the stands, and set them on there. I hang more front-to-back excess off the back end so the main weight of the drivers is closer to resting on the top plate. I've never had a problem. You don't need or necessarily want a top plate on the stand that's the same size as the bottom of your speaker. A duck decoy setting on top of each LSi9 serves as an anti-cat device, and I'm good to go!
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited March 2008
    damn, those are some beefy **** stands. base plate shmase plate, those things will be fine. definitly fill em with sand.....HUGE difference.

    overkill? yeah, probably, but stable as hell if there rated to handle 200 lbs filled. those will be the last stands you'll ever buy..LOL
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    Well, at least now I am permanently done with upgrading speaker stands for a while. :) And no, I don't have any pets right now, so I just need to be careful of myself not to bump into those stands.

    dkg999, with your LSi9's resting on the small top plate, do you feel that the small top plate is putting too much pressure on that small area under the speakers? Will it damage the speakers?
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2008
    There's only 4 small areas of contact when using the points in the top base of the stand. You will get 4 small nicks in the bottom of your speaker, and more or scratches if you try to move them around. I took a file and smoothed the points so that they would do less marking of the bottom of the speaker.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    I don't like to scratch the bottom of my speakers.

    Maybe I should head over to Staples and get some of those sticky clay, cover up those sharp points on the top plate, and put a nice big thick piece in the middle, so the bottom of the speaker is glued to the middle of the top plate.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited March 2008
    use one of these vinyl condoms over the 4 screws and it should stop it from gouging up the base of speaker

    6906.jpg

    the other way is to sticking pennies to the bottom of the speaker that go between speaker/screw
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    Greetings mouseling, please take me to your leader...:D

    anonymouse wrote: »
    Nothing to add here, but I felt I must chime in on a fellow mouse's thread.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    Thanks SlowcarIX, I'll give those vinyl things a try. Where can you get them from? Home depot?
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited March 2008
    home depot will have them - bring one of the screw with you
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited March 2008
    I've got the Target MR24's for my 902i's and the overall effect very good. I haven't filled them with sand or shot, as I move them on a regular basis. I've sticky tack between the speakers and stands. This style has basically been a reference for several years, so I think you made a good decision for the 9's.
    Tschüss
    Zach
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    Another fellow Target MR user!:D I thought I must have been mad to spend $300 on a pair of stands, since I seemed to be the only one who did it.

    So what kind of sticky tack are you using? I tried to find the famous blu tac, but doesn't seem like anyone is carrying them.

    I think Staples sells some poster sticky clay. Is that good enough?


    And are your stands stable? I still haven't assembled mine yet. I am a bit concerned about stability, since the base plate is only 9x10. And do you find the top plate a bit on the small side? The top plate is 6x8.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited March 2008
    They seem very stable, and I've had two toddlers bumping into them for 16 months now. I am using the stuff from staples, as I couldn't find the blu-tac either. When I say that I move them around on a regular basis, I mean they are moved 1-2 feet three or four times a week. They have never fallen over, and the tack has stabilized the speakers the whole time. Here is a pic from last summer: http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=25626&d=1181965761
    Tschüss
    Zach
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mightymouse
    mightymouse Posts: 254
    edited March 2008
    Nice looking setup you've got there. :)
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter