B&K PRO-10MC Pre-Amp & B&K ST-202 Amplifier

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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited March 2008
    What about sitting a power conditioner ontop of it? Is that ok? Its not that big. Maybe 12'' by 5''
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited March 2008
    The power conditioner would probably be fine. Get some of those pucks from the puckguy(can't remember his name) that people talk about on the forum.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    bopicasso wrote: »
    What about sitting a power conditioner ontop of it? Is that ok? Its not that big. Maybe 12'' by 5''

    If by 12x5 you mean it's only 5" deep....I agree with BL, that shoud be fine. Just place it as close to the front of the amplifier as possible.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    I still have a smoking pre-amp available....in all this amplifier talk, it seems to have been lost in the shuffle :)
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • daboyz
    daboyz Posts: 5,207
    edited March 2008
    BaggedLancer wrote: »
    The power conditioner would probably be fine. Get some of those pucks from the puckguy(can't remember his name) that people talk about on the forum.

    Me thinks it was avriser.net
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited March 2008
    Im gonna go home tonight and check some measurements to make sure I have room! lol
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    I added a couple pics of the PRO-10MC w/ Dynamat. It's a logical application and not some newbie hackjob w/ every square inch covered. A whole sheet was used on the pre-amp for a .25lb gain. I also touched up a couple scratches and the unit looks really nice.

    I didn't take a picture of the amplifier yet. The Amplifier has one(1) 5"x11" strip on each side of the chassis. The faceplate is 1/4 thick, w/ rack handles so I may or may not add a spare piece before it goes out the door.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • daboyz
    daboyz Posts: 5,207
    edited March 2008
    Now you got me wondering if I want it.:eek:
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    It's not on hold or anything.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    bopicasso wrote: »
    Im gonna go home tonight and check some measurements to make sure I have room! lol

    No room?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited March 2008
    No :-( Before I buy a new amp I need surround speakers. I just want everything! lol
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    Here's a shot of the Dynamat panel that was placed on each side of the ST-202. The rest of the chassis made no sense as it's heavy gauge to begin with, and the front panel is solid billet. The sides were the only spot that "sounded" thin....but not anymore.

    P.S. Check out the soda can capacitors.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited March 2008
    Couple of nice well built pieces here folks.Can't say enough about B&k products.Any of you with RTI's or LSI speakers looking to move up from that receiver,here it is,and at a price you could sell the wife on.The amp alone is worth it.If your trying to figure out what to do with that 600 clams uncle sam will be sending you,take a hard look here.
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  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited March 2008
    PM sent on the pre-amp.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    Thanks Tony, I appreciate the kind words.

    Dave - Oki doki.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    edited March 2008
    Hey Dave, if you don't take it I'd like to give it a whirl.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited March 2008
    I'll take the pre-amp. We did our taxes tonight and the wife was in a great mood. Thought we were going to owe 1,000's and it wasn't too bad.

    Doro, PM me payment method and such.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    edited March 2008
    Enjoy it brother!
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    Thanks Dave, will do.

    Tom - Thanks for the interest and email man.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited April 2008
    The amp still available?
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2008
    I don't believe it is but I haven't received an update from the buyer yet.

    Opus? Email me as I have something for you.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2008
    The amplifier is sold but the pre-amp is back on the market.

    I had some additional switch issues with the unit and didn't want to hold Dave up any longer. I have a B&K connection and its off for a factory refresh and spec check. When it returns it will be blessed by the B&K service team including a small upgrade.

    I also picked up the factory schematics for each unit so they will be included. No reason, other than to be thorough and be a cool extra for your records.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • biswampyankee
    biswampyankee Posts: 1
    edited April 2008
    Is this B&K equipment still for sale?
    dorokusai wrote: »
    B&K PRO-10MC Pre-Amplifier - 8/10 - Black - $180

    This is one hell of a pre-amp/ amplifier combination but I listed the pieces individually. Both have been completely gone over and I've added Dynamat, internally, to both components. I would prefer to sell them as a pair but I'm flexible. They both have a couple chassis scratches but they're still very presentable and the heat sink fins are perfect. Neither unit has EVER been rack mounted.

    These are from the early days of B&K, when it was just BK Components(1981), the gear is circa 1985. They pulled out the stops for their debut lineup and it shows in the build quality and internal component choices.

    The pre-amplifier is sought after for it's solid Noble potentiometers, great phono stage and straightforward design. It reminds me of NAD in the 80's, of which the pre-amps are still highly praised for their phono stage and design. It's a sonic upgrade over the previous PRO-5MC and not as electrically cluttered as the later Sonata.

    This was a Stereophile Class C component, way back in the day....sure, not a Class A but it certainly made the list of memorable gear. The sound is clean, detailed and warm...almost tubelike.

    Inputs? There are 6, including a tape monitor for you old school folks. The rear end is a plethora of high quality, gold plated RCA terminations straight to PCB. There's are two pairs of pre-outs for those of you that own a 2CH subwoofer.

    When I received the unit it was inoperative. It turned out to be a bad power switch, which has been replaced with a PE SPST Rocker Switch w/Neon Lamp(#060-300) and the rest has been spec'd out. I also swapped the power switch on the ST-202, so it would match. I'll include the original switches in case you want them.

    It's 100% functional and all connections have been cleaned and treated with CAIG products. It will be packed to withstand an atomic blast.

    Includes: N/A. A nice, new velcro strap for the power cord.

    B&K ST-202 Amplifier - 7/10 - Black - *SOLD* to Opus

    This is the second piece and it's just a ballbuster amplifier. This is the first old school B&K amp I've actually owned and simply loved it.

    I rated it a 7/10 because it has a few dings in the faceplate edge and some very small spots on the faceplate that I can't seem to remove with GooGone. I have no idea what they are and not a big deal but worth mentioning.

    This is a Class A pre-driver, dual mono, common ground design. It has a 300kva, dual wound toroid transformer with 12 oz. soda can sized capacitors. You won't have ANY power delivery problems. It's 4ohm stable.

    150wpc@8ohms
    200wpc@4ohms

    As mentioned previously, it has a brand new power switch, ONLY to match the pre-amp as it was 100% functional out of the box. It's been spec'd and some internal tidbits seemed to have some wiggle, so I tightened down EVERYTHING in the chassis. It has a couple straps of Dynamat added to the chassis for resonance control. The inside is immaculate, dust free and the heatsinks are downright dangerous.

    It's 100% functional and all connections have been cleaned and treated with CAIG products. It will be packed to withstand an atomic blast.

    Includes: N/A. A fancy, high end velcro strap for the power cord.

    S081CM01ORPBK
    S082202STBK
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2008
    The PRO10MC is still available but the amplifier is sold. I have other gear if you're looking for a stereo amplifier.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2008
    OPUS - Hey, just got the amplifier back from B&K with a clean bill of health.

    They bench tested and biased the amp, replaced the power switch, replaced all the fuses to B&K specs and upgraded some board level components. It's in new B&K packaging and ready to go, let me know if you're still interested.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited May 2008
    Doro... not to get off subject here, but I am thinking about doing the same thing with my B&K amp, what was the approx B&K charge for the refresh?
    Monitor 7b's front
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    M10's back surround
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    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2008
    Jake - We had worked something out prior so I'm not sure what the cost would have been.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited May 2008
    Mark,
    If Opus isn't interested I may be for the workshop rig.;) I'll wait to see what his plans are.

    Shawn
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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  • opus
    opus Posts: 1,252
    edited May 2008
    I will still take it, but will gladly step aside to let a local polkie grab it.

    Let me know shawn474
    The Flea rig
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    Rotel RSP 1066 (pre) :)-flea market
    B&K St-202 (mains)-flea market
    Carver M 200t (x2) (center and surrounds)-flea market
    Blu-Ray..PS3 (dvd player)
    Polk RTA-11t-flea market
    LsiC, Fxi30's
    Dual SVS PC-Utra's (1 port blocked) thanks MikeC78
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited May 2008
    Mark, How much was the amp?
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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