Mike's Official Emerald Physics CS2s Break-in and Review Thread
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I've been eyeballing them since the first time I've seen them.
I wouldn't mind getting my ears on a pair or possibly picking up a set once they start to hit the used market."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
Yeah they've mellowed out quite a bit. The bass has also tightened up and increased considerably. Signal Cable will also be making a special speaker cable for me to connect directly to the tweeter thereby bypassing the binding posts and internal wires. This has been said to increase the sound quality considerably according to other Emmy owners. I'll let you all know.
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When I first looked at the pictures I thought this was a truck subwoofer that you tuck behind the bench seat.
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Lasareath, do your monkey coffins hit 20 Hz like a Gorilla?
Venomclan, how do your fish bowls sound these days?
Update: I'm listening to B.B. King Live at San Quentin, right now. I now have the speakers toed in a foot and one half in front of my listening position. This was recommended by many owners on the net. The results are immediately noticeable. The speakers now are completely integrated with the room and throw the biggest most detailed soundstage I have ever heard.
Please, please, please . . . anyone who has not heard these speakers, run and take a listen! If you have $3,500 and want the best speakers possible in the price range, then these are certainly an option to hear.
Also, keep an eye out for the upcoming issue of Aboslute Sound. I just got off the phone with Clayton and he let me know that he expects to win a Golden Ear Award from the magazine.
Sounds Good.
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SolidSqual wrote: »Lasareath, do your monkey coffins hit 20 Hz like a Gorilla?
Venomclan, how do your fish bowls sound these days?
Update: I'm listening to B.B. King Live at San Quentin, right now. I now have the speakers toed in a foot and one half in front of my listening position. This was recommended by many owners on the net. The results are immediately noticeable. The speakers now are completely integrated with the room and throw the biggest most detailed soundstage I have ever heard.
Please, please, please . . . anyone who has not heard these speakers, run and take a listen! If you have $3,500 and want the best speakers possible in the price range, then these are certainly an option to hear.
Also, keep an eye out for the upcoming issue of Aboslute Sound. I just got off the phone with Clayton and he let me know that he expects to win a Golden Ear Award from the magazine.
Sounds Good.
Later,
Mike
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Mike, the 1.2TL and 2.3TL have an overall response of 10Hz-26kHz and 12Hz-26kHz respectively, so yeah they hit like a gorilla.
I have to say from what little I heard, the bass was on the light side and the soundstage was completely in between the speakers. However, they were smooth and detailed. As I understand it one can play with the DSP to increase the bass response, correct? A foot and a half toe in is pretty radical. I thought the DSP corrections made things like toe in not very important?
Anyway, I was intrigued enough to want a second demo. After reading your comments I feel better informed as to what to do to get the best out of them.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Mike, the 1.2TL and 2.3TL have an overall response of 10Hz-26kHz and 12Hz-26kHz respectively, so yeah they hit like a gorilla.
I have to say from what little I heard, the bass was on the light side and the soundstage was completely in between the speakers. However, they were smooth and detailed. As I understand it one can play with the DSP to increase the bass response, correct? A foot and a half toe in is pretty radical. I thought the DSP corrections made things like toe in not very important?
Anyway, I was intrigued enough to want a second demo. After reading your comments I feel better informed as to what to do to get the best out of them.
Awwww Crap, I thought Lasareath had the 1Cs. haha ok I'll shut up.
If the bass was on the light side then something was not setup correctly, seriously. I haven't altered the bass settings on the DSP and I have loads of tight bass. It outputs at the level of two powered subs easily.
I can't comment on the DSP corrections. These are all things that are available to someone willing to sit down and mess with the Behringer or to someone who wants to work with Clayton to solve an unsolveable room problem through use of the Behringer.
All this being said, proper room setup and speaker placement is all that I understand and the easiest method for me to setup a pair of speakers. I work with the physics given in the room. DSP in my opinion should be used to tweak your system once you've achieved the best physical placement you can in your listening room.
Finally, make sure the speakers you listen to have at least 100 hours on them. I found this mark to be a major increase in quantity and quality of bass. This also was true regarding the smoothness of the tweeter. -
Thanks, I'll check on the amount of burn in they have and as to what the DSP settings are.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
SolidSqual wrote: »Venomclan, how do your fish bowls sound these days?
The goldfish are restless but they still sound better than my truck subwoofer. :cool: Gallo Punk. -
The goldfish are restless but they still sound better than my truck subwoofer. :cool: Gallo Punk.
One day I'd like to meet you and buy you a beer, my friend. -
SolidSqual wrote: »One day I'd like to meet you and buy you a beer, my friend.
He doesn't drink beer......just those fu-fu Florida drinks,the chicks dig him for it.:)HT SYSTEM-
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Polk FX500 surrounds
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SolidSqual wrote: »One day I'd like to meet you and buy you a beer, my friend.
Likewise my friend.He doesn't drink beer......just those fu-fu Florida drinks,the chicks dig him for it.:)
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Hi Micheal,
When we first started shipping the CS2 last May, we used a different processor. The DBX PA DSP unit has an auto equalization system which includes a microphone in order to take the measurements in the room. It worked pretty well, but had some consistency issues with it. After we developed the preset eq approach we currently have, we were able to employ the Behringer DCX2496, which sounds better, has 24 bit, 96kHz sampling and digital input. Probably less than 5 pair were made this way for the USA market.
Clayton Shaw
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...and the DBX costs twice as much...Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
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F1Nut did you ever get a chance to hear the CS2s?
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Any more updates on how they sound?
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Hey guys,
I'm at 250 hours now. The tweeters have done some strange things. At about 180 hours they started sounding sluggish and closed sounding. After about 4 hours of this crap, they began to bloom and come back. Now at 250 hours the soundstage stretches from wall to wall with every well-recorded song I play.
The midrange is oh so perfect. Not sure how to describe it, but all the musicality is in this range. Each note is rich and powerful. The highs and lows of the speakers have wowed me, but the midrange has left me gasping . . . its left me laughing like a school girl at how good the sound is . . . and at times its just left me wondering if things could possibly get any better.
The lows have become even tighter and more powerful. Listening to Moby Dick by Led Zeppelin is just amazing. The drum solo is like walking through a bomb field in terms of dynamics. The bass sounds so natural and well out of the box . . . its amazing.
Thanks
Mike -
SS -- Glad to hear you're enjoying your speakers. If I had the funds, they would be my next purchase.
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
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You can tell us- did you put on Wilson Phillips for 4 hours at about 180???Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
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No even worse . . . I put the Bose Lifestyle 25 Companion CD on. I'm telling you, best classical mix ever!
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Hey Guys,
Just wanted to give a shout out for Clayton. He wrote a new crossover file for the Behringer and sent it to me on a PC card via snail mail so I could use the Behringer to feed my new SVS sub. This guy is the S#!t. He asked for no compensation. He just said "you're my customer and I want to make sure you are taken care of."
On another note, the SVS 39-20 PC Plus sounds absolutely sick! Movies are amazing! It even integrated extremely well with music and my CS2s. SVS totally caught me off guard with this sub. It is truly musical.
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This is my first post here and is informational only as I am the Emerald Physics North American sales agent. Please email me directly for more info at underwoodwally@aol.com
Just a note to let you know why the extreme toe in is used on the CS-2.
The CS-2 is a controlled dispersion design. It deliberately reduces dispersion so that there are no side wall, floor or ceiling reflections. By doing this is effectively removes the room from the listening equation. As long as you can get it 3 feet or more from the back wall the room does not matter. It will therefore work in almost ALL rooms. There are almost no bad rooms for the CS-2 with this technology.
The design guarantees equal power bandwidth into the room with no reflections.
I call the CS-2 the "Anti-Speaker" as most of what we, as audiophiles, have learned over the years does not work with this speaker. It is very efficient, yet likes big power amps. It uses a horn midrange/tweeter but does not work with most tube amps as it is too accurate. -
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Mike, Hows it going with the CS 2.3? My favorite led zep album is BBC sessions...which unfortunately is one of my worst recorded CDs as well..You reckon the CS 2.3 is too couth to handle bad masterings?
