there`s no going back....

beardog03
beardog03 Posts: 5,550
edited March 2008 in 2 Channel Audio
after tubes....
I disconnected my Cary V12, toying with the idea of selling her, and hooked the SS Parasound back up...

and while it sounds really friggen good, it just aint what I have become accustomed to....

Now I realize that the new MIT`s are still breaking in, and the new tubes in the SLP-98 are still fairly new, but man what a difference tubes make !!

If you have the chance too try tubes and keep the SS amp to switch back and forth after a few weeks of each, you will see what I mean.

I have a solid base in the Parasound 3500, so I will always keep her as a solid powerhouse (350@8 ohms-500@4 ohms), but I think I will save up and get some JC1 mono`s for the SS side of the Rig...The Cary is a great starter amp IMO, and is worth keeping,she`s a well built , solid unit....and looks pretty damn good too !!

... but I want to try some tube mono`s in the 200wpc and above side ....;)

I am still working on getting my cary 306 SACD player, and they now have a new "Professional" model....whatever that means.....it`s just kinda hard to get that kind of $$ together right now, as I am having to rebuild the bike, and the truck is starting to show it`s age (brakes and tranny)....

but hey, it`s just money, and I love this hobby, and the gratification that comes with a well matched system....
...synergy



the sweet sound of music is what makes it all go away.....and keeps me from having to shine my hammer and go balistic on those around me that need a tune up...


So whaddaya think ?
is there life after tubes ?!!

I guess so....but TUBES RULE !!

:cool:
Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

:cool:
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited March 2008
    Good for you; just relax and enjoy.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited March 2008
    Cary V12, a great starter amp??

    Holy shiite, that's a destination amp in my mind. Rock ON, broham!

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2008
    I had a CJ PV14LS2 tube preamp & absolutely loved it. Then I picked up a Krell KAV amp & preamp combo from venom. I did A/B listening for about a month...I just sold the CJ to a guy in Georgia. No tubes in the rig now & still loving it. That's why they make vanilla & chocolate. Stick with what makes you happy, be it SS, tubes or a combo.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited March 2008
    There's some mighty nice SS out there but it's tubes only for me. I listen to a lot of nice SS gear on a regular basis but the tubes are what do it for me. Just can't get that sound out of SS. Not that they're not excellent, I just prefer the ways of hot glass. NO going back.
    HB
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,034
    edited March 2008
    beardog03 wrote: »
    ...synergy
    Hard to obtain, easy to enjoy. Rock on bro'!
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited March 2008
    I enjoy the mix of glass and SS, but not too sure that a solid SS rig could do it for me after all the tube gear I have had lately...

    The Cary 98 pre amp is a stellar unit IMO, and I think it would be hard to beat.....but I keep looking at the SLP-05 !!!!

    Cary has some new gear out and I still want to taste some Manley Labs gear.....

    I finally got to a point after I got the new MIT cables, that I actually went down and bought a bunch of new Cd`s !!!


    Sometimes, like Ricardo said, ya just gotta relax and enjoy the music ......






    oh, and TUBES RULE !!!!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited March 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Hard to obtain, easy to enjoy. Rock on bro'!

    I agree..

    sometimes the slightest mis-adjustment or wrong turn with a piece of gear, or cables, can screw it up, and make it hard to re-acheive

    I have been pretty lucky with finding gear that plays well with each other

    I have found myslf tryig to convince myself that it was working just because I wanted it to, but once the cable, or piece of gear rolled out (and tubes for that matter) was changed it got better..

    It`s just hard not to keep tweeking and swapping trying to get "better"
    that`s when you kinda miss the whole point....it`s all about enjoying the music






    I wnder what the speaks the Mark has , the 602`s would sound like?!!

    I love my 9`s, but I really want some Sonus Fabers .....:D

    or try some Ushers

    or some B&W

    or some Spendor


    Some electrostats......some horns..



    it never ends.....


    but it sure is fun !!!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2008
    BearDog....

    All I can say is F^*K U :(


    I'm still saving my pennies / dollars for a SLP-98 But damn that sounds sweet. :)

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited March 2008
    Just looked at your signature; that's pretty nice gear. You are just missing:

    -A turntable :)
    -Try some other speakers; with that kind of gear, get some other monitors and see how you like them (Von Schweikert VR1 would be a nice alternative).
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    It's time to step out of the monkey coffin for awhile Beardog.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited March 2008
    dorokusai wrote: »
    It's time to step out of the monkey coffin for awhile Beardog.

    What he said
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2008
    A pair of Magnepan's might set you free!
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited March 2008
    no room for them to breathe...

    I agree, but I just don`t have my room completely set up correctly...yet !!

    Steve,
    there are a few on the `Gon from time to time, and at a pretty steady price tag...
    definately worth it, as i have found the build and sound to be all you would expect it to be....you won`t be disappointed, that`s for sure
    Maybe I should sell this one to you and get the slp-05 !!

    Ricardo,

    I need to update the sig as I have moved a few things around....but for the most part it`s the same...
    I kind of wish that I kept the integrated to try some other speaks out, but...
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2008
    If you don't have enough room for Magnepan, look into some Elecrtostats as they are a bit more forgiving.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2008
    beardog03 wrote: »
    I guess so....but TUBES RULE !!

    :cool:

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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited March 2008
    Don't look at it as going back, you just haven't gone high enough. Tubes priced at equivalent SS prices typically sound better, but moving up the $$$ tiers I think the SS equipment sounds better.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2008
    Il like the combo together although the all tube rigs I've heard recently made me wet my pants. I would need to hear it in my rig and I love my monkey coffins.
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited March 2008
    Life is too short to have to decide between glass and SS, just get yourself a hybrid amp and you will have a taste of both. Thats is what I did. :)
    Venom
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited March 2008
    I will probably always have a tube pre amp....

    It`s just the Amp hat I keep switching around


    one day I will reach the level that I would like to be at.....just gotta work my way up
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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