Sub for a Polk LS system

NotaSuv
NotaSuv Posts: 3,851
Any input on a Polk sub for a system consisting of 2 LS90's..2 LS50's and 350ls center..no need on the music end..but maybe for HT use....would like to go with a Polk product if there something out there...have zero experince with Polk subs...have had a few Velodyne SPL's but nothing hooked up at the moment...thanks
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  • MADGSF
    MADGSF Posts: 603
    edited February 2008
    A price range and room size would help here. Polk has made some good subwoofers in the DSW line but I don't have any experience with them. The DSW Pro 600 looks good on paper at least and it would be worth a listen if you can.
    AVR: Elite VSX-21TXH
    Amplifier: B&K 7250 Series ii
    Misc: Velodyne SMS-1
    Mains: RTi-10
    Center: CSi-5
    Rear: Boston DSi460
    Sub: SVS PC-Ultra
    TV: Panasonic TC-P58V10
    DVD: Panasonic DMP-BD60K
  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,851
    edited February 2008
    room is 13x22 7ft tall. couch is pretty much dead center in middle of room..one side glass windows which are 16 feet long..6 feet tall...price no matter
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited February 2008
    I would say you would need at least a mid size sub. that isnt exactly a small room (while the relativly low cieling helps)

    cant go wrong with an SVS, thats well known, but that DSW pro 600 sounds intriguing from what i hear. would love to see what that thing can do.

    I would hope they have one on demo for Polkfest but that's a way off. by the numbers, it should do your room fine, but not many people have ears on it yet
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

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  • fumoffu
    fumoffu Posts: 80
    edited February 2008
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    room is 13x22 7ft tall. couch is pretty much dead center in middle of room..one side glass windows which are 16 feet long..6 feet tall...price no matter

    Do you know how loud you listen movies too? Do you have an SPL meter? Would you like to really feel the bass? Make your house rumble? O, and what about size, WAF, and the looks of it?
    Home Theatre: Epson 5020ub, Elite Screen Sable Frame 100", Onkyo 818, Oppo BDP-103, Tivo Series 3, Xbox 360, Sealed Dual Sound Splinter RL-p 15" DIY sub powered by Behringer EP2500 with FBD, QSC RMX1400 powering LSi15, LSiC, LSiFX sides, and Lsi7 for the back, Technics SL-1200M3D
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2008
    SVS or Epik. Both offer excellent bang for buck products, pick one and enjoy.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

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  • MADGSF
    MADGSF Posts: 603
    edited February 2008
    At the price no object price point I suggest this.

    http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-cyl-pcultra_new.cfm
    AVR: Elite VSX-21TXH
    Amplifier: B&K 7250 Series ii
    Misc: Velodyne SMS-1
    Mains: RTi-10
    Center: CSi-5
    Rear: Boston DSi460
    Sub: SVS PC-Ultra
    TV: Panasonic TC-P58V10
    DVD: Panasonic DMP-BD60K
  • fumoffu
    fumoffu Posts: 80
    edited February 2008
    MADGSF wrote: »
    At the price no object price point I suggest this.

    http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-cyl-pcultra_new.cfm
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    room is 13x22 7ft tall. couch is pretty much dead center in middle of room..one side glass windows which are 16 feet long..6 feet tall...price no matter

    I second he SVS ultra! You will find it amazing how much glass can flex :)
    Home Theatre: Epson 5020ub, Elite Screen Sable Frame 100", Onkyo 818, Oppo BDP-103, Tivo Series 3, Xbox 360, Sealed Dual Sound Splinter RL-p 15" DIY sub powered by Behringer EP2500 with FBD, QSC RMX1400 powering LSi15, LSiC, LSiFX sides, and Lsi7 for the back, Technics SL-1200M3D
  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited February 2008
    Price no object, I think I would go a different route: consider Sunfire Truesub, Velodyne or Digital Drive.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited February 2008
    2 polk dswpro600, will cause a lot of damage! :D

    DSC01242.jpg
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
  • FastForward
    FastForward Posts: 8
    edited February 2008
    For what it's worth, I had the Pro 600, lot's of ooomph, but muddy at times, i.e., not very accurate...also I found the lack of a volume dial hard to work with...volume was determined by the number of blinks on the front led...I never knew where it was landing...I ended up with a Martin Logan Abyss 12"...wow, can't say enough about it...my $.02
    Center - CsiA6
    Fronts - RTiA9's
    Surrounds - FXiA6's
    Rears - FXiA6's
    Sub - Martin Logan Abyss

    AVR - Pioneer Elite 94TXH
    DVD - Pioneer Elite Blu-ray BDP-95FD
    TV - Pioneer Elite Pro 630-HD

    Remote - URC MX-980
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2008
    How about Dual SVS PB12/PLus2s paired with a Velodyne SMS-1 to crush your dual 600s Slowcar. HAHAHAH. I win, you lose.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited February 2008
    SlowcarIX wrote: »
    2 polk dswpro600, will cause a lot of damage! :D

    Nice setup, I can't imagine what two 600's will do in the average size room.

    The DSW series absolutley SLAUGHTERS anything Polk has released in the subwoofer department to date. Real, honest contenders in the subwoofer market at their respective price points (and then some). That's not company man speak, I've owned them all, SVS, Vandersteen, Martin Logan, etc etc etc...... The DSW series is the real deal.

    I'm a fan of stereo subs in a music setting, and even the tiny DSW400 (x2) will bring in the bottom end authority for the LS90's. Buy now, and get that **** eatin' grin on your face every time you listen. Home theater is even more of a home run.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited February 2008
    The 90's already go pretty low so you'll want a sub that can do a minimum of 20HZ at a respectable DB level. With that criteria it should limit your selection fairly rapidly. And if you're budget concious as most everyone here is, you'll end up looking at HSU, SVS, Outlaw, and a few others.
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited February 2008
    Walter, want to hear a lowly 400? Let me know, I'll bring it over. ;)

    Budget minded, the offerings from all the brands you mentioned - the new DSW series is right there in the fold. Every one you mentioned is a solid choice, with R&D and real world reviews to back them. That being said, I welcome ALL skeptics to the new 'Polk' bass dept.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited February 2008
    Sherardp wrote: »
    How about Dual SVS PB12/PLus2s paired with a Velodyne SMS-1 to crush your dual 600s Slowcar. HAHAHAH. I win, you lose.

    svs = $1300
    600s = $600

    2 svs = 4 600s

    How about 4 x polk dswpro600 + velodyne sms-1?

    :p
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited February 2008
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Walter, want to hear a lowly 400? Let me know, I'll bring it over. ;)

    Budget minded, the offerings from all the brands you mentioned - the new DSW series is right there in the fold. Every one you mentioned is a solid choice, with R&D and real world reviews to back them. That being said, I welcome ALL skeptics to the new 'Polk' bass dept.

    Cheers,
    Russ

    Oh yeah, a Polk/SVS sub shootout! Is it really fair though? My SVS cost twice as much as the Polk. So it should sound twice as good! :cool:
  • mark090852
    mark090852 Posts: 996
    edited February 2008
    MADGSF wrote: »
    At the price no object price point I suggest this.

    http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-cyl-pcultra_new.cfm

    I third the SVS!
    McIntosh MA252 Integrated Amp, LUMIN D2 Network Music Player, Yamaha Aventage RX-A840 receiver, Emotiva XPA Gen3 2 channel amp, Polk LSiM 703 speakers. Oppo UDP-203 Blu-Ray player, Polk LSiM 705 speakers. Polk Signature S20 speakers.
  • fumoffu
    fumoffu Posts: 80
    edited February 2008
    DIY is really the only way to roll!

    I say you need 8 18" drivers and about 10,000 watts of power. Like this:

    DSC_0004.jpg
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=976075

    Seriously if you like building things and have a little time, you can get some really amazing results :)
    Home Theatre: Epson 5020ub, Elite Screen Sable Frame 100", Onkyo 818, Oppo BDP-103, Tivo Series 3, Xbox 360, Sealed Dual Sound Splinter RL-p 15" DIY sub powered by Behringer EP2500 with FBD, QSC RMX1400 powering LSi15, LSiC, LSiFX sides, and Lsi7 for the back, Technics SL-1200M3D
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2008
    ^ Holy Hell, that looks frightening.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=73580
  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited February 2008
    wallstreet wrote: »
    Oh yeah, a Polk/SVS sub shootout! Is it really fair though? My SVS cost twice as much as the Polk. So it should sound twice as good! :cool:

    +1 on the shoot out :D
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
  • Texas42
    Texas42 Posts: 404
    edited February 2008
    I picked up a DSW 600 about a month ago and have found it is a very flexible sub. Not much to look at but solid performance. Does it match up to my Legacy Audio Powered Impact sub (dual 12's)....? No, but that's a high dollar item. Compared to what is out there at that price point, I've been very impressed.
  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited February 2008
    ^^^ You have GOT to be kidding me..... :eek:

    Thats so outrageous that at first I thought it was CG'd, photoshopped, or something....
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
  • Shannon W.
    Shannon W. Posts: 568
    edited February 2008
    Duel SvS PB12-Plus/2 and a SMS-1 or Duel SvS PB13-Ultra with a SMS-1!
    Hell, I have one PB12-Plus/2 and it was enough to bust the Lath and Plaster loose in the in my dinning room Ceiling while watching Transformers!

    Here is the picture for proof. SVS! WHEN YOU WANT TO ROCK THE HOUSE DOWN!

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    Skip all the Polk Sub BS, They make some fine speakers but their subs are lacking. I'd put my SVS up to the Pepsi Challenge against any duel 600's any day.

    Here is the earth shaker!

    DSC00741.jpg

    Talk to Ron at SVS and tell him Shannon Wilson sent you!
    50" Samsung Plasma
    Sony STR-DA4ES "use as Pre/amp"
    Pioneer Elite DV-45A DVD Player
    DLO HomeDock Deluxe iPod docking station
    Directv HR20 Sat. Receiver in black
    Sunfire Cinema Grand 7 Signature Amp
    Monster Cable AVS2000
    Monster Cable HTPS 5100 MKII
    Polk LSi 9's Front R/L
    Polk LSiC Center
    Polk LSiFX R/L Surround
    Polk LSi 7's Rear R/L
    SVS PB12-Plus/2
    Velodyne SMS-1
    Sony PS3
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  • Shannon W.
    Shannon W. Posts: 568
    edited February 2008
    I also recommend the DIY if you have the means! Look into TC Sound Drivers. they changed their name but the TC Sound site is still up and you will find a link to their new page!

    That will be my next project once I get my table saw!
    Shannon
    50" Samsung Plasma
    Sony STR-DA4ES "use as Pre/amp"
    Pioneer Elite DV-45A DVD Player
    DLO HomeDock Deluxe iPod docking station
    Directv HR20 Sat. Receiver in black
    Sunfire Cinema Grand 7 Signature Amp
    Monster Cable AVS2000
    Monster Cable HTPS 5100 MKII
    Polk LSi 9's Front R/L
    Polk LSiC Center
    Polk LSiFX R/L Surround
    Polk LSi 7's Rear R/L
    SVS PB12-Plus/2
    Velodyne SMS-1
    Sony PS3
    Click Here To View my Rig
  • Shannon W.
    Shannon W. Posts: 568
    edited February 2008
    fumoffu wrote: »
    DIY is really the only way to roll!

    I say you need 8 18" drivers and about 10,000 watts of power. Like this:

    DSC_0004.jpg
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=976075

    Seriously if you like building things and have a little time, you can get some really amazing results :)

    WTF? MY GAWD! LoL. talk about Tower of Power!

    Shannon
    50" Samsung Plasma
    Sony STR-DA4ES "use as Pre/amp"
    Pioneer Elite DV-45A DVD Player
    DLO HomeDock Deluxe iPod docking station
    Directv HR20 Sat. Receiver in black
    Sunfire Cinema Grand 7 Signature Amp
    Monster Cable AVS2000
    Monster Cable HTPS 5100 MKII
    Polk LSi 9's Front R/L
    Polk LSiC Center
    Polk LSiFX R/L Surround
    Polk LSi 7's Rear R/L
    SVS PB12-Plus/2
    Velodyne SMS-1
    Sony PS3
    Click Here To View my Rig
  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited February 2008
    Shannon W. wrote: »
    Duel SvS PB12-Plus/2 and a SMS-1 or Duel SvS PB13-Ultra with a SMS-1!
    Hell, I have one PB12-Plus/2 and it was enough to bust the Lath and Plaster loose in the in my dinning room Ceiling while watching Transformers!

    Here is the picture for proof. SVS! WHEN YOU WANT TO ROCK THE HOUSE DOWN!

    Skip all the Polk Sub BS, They make some fine speakers but their subs are lacking. I'd put my SVS up to the Pepsi Challenge against any duel 600's any day.

    Here is the earth shaker!

    Talk to Ron at SVS and tell him Shannon Wilson sent you!

    why didnt the sub rattle the plaster loose in your HT room but in your dinning room...poor workmanship when the walls were installed that cause the failure :confused:
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
  • Shannon W.
    Shannon W. Posts: 568
    edited February 2008
    With the house being built in the Forty's there is no telling but I doubt it was a poor craftsmanship problem :D , but I will tell you that the Dinning room is the one to the right of the sub and for some odd reason the SPL is greater (maybe like 10db) in that room over the room it is in. The thing at times can make every room sound different and Resonate.
    Do a search on SvS in some other forums and see what other owners are saying about them. I for one will never stray from SvS. Now I just need to sell my left kidney for my 2'nd PB12+2. With one I've seen peaks of 120bd with the amp pulling almost 10A :eek:, (Ive got to change out that 15A breaker). so if one can hit that kind of numbers I cant wait to see what two will do.

    Shannon
    50" Samsung Plasma
    Sony STR-DA4ES "use as Pre/amp"
    Pioneer Elite DV-45A DVD Player
    DLO HomeDock Deluxe iPod docking station
    Directv HR20 Sat. Receiver in black
    Sunfire Cinema Grand 7 Signature Amp
    Monster Cable AVS2000
    Monster Cable HTPS 5100 MKII
    Polk LSi 9's Front R/L
    Polk LSiC Center
    Polk LSiFX R/L Surround
    Polk LSi 7's Rear R/L
    SVS PB12-Plus/2
    Velodyne SMS-1
    Sony PS3
    Click Here To View my Rig