Abc Firearm Revolution! Lol!

MxStYlEpOlKmAn

A. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
B. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
C. Colt: The original point and click interface.
D. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
E. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
F. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
G. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
H. If you don't know your rights you don't have any.
I. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
J. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved.
K. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
L. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.
M. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
N. Guns only have two enemies: rust and liberals.
O. Know guns, know peace and safety. No guns, no peace nor safety.
P. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
Q. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
R. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
S. Criminals love gun control - it makes their jobs safer.
T. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
U. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
V. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.
W. Enforce the "gun control laws" we have, don't make more.
X. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
Y. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
Z. "...a government of the people, by the people, for the people..."

TroyD

Sure, just what we need, a bunch of vigilantes.

Just a couple questions:

OK, how many folks do you read about actually halting a crime because they had a firearm? Gee, I can't think of many. Bernie Getz was one of the last ones that I heard of and that was about 20 years ago.

How many kids get killed because they were playing with the olds man's gun, didn't know it was loaded....yada yada? Hear about that all to often.

Having said that, I am not against people owning guns. I own guns but people that operate under the dillusion that they are going to 'protect' themselves are kidding them selves for the most part.

BDT

shepx2

Well, look at the US statistics. Generally, the states with 'right to carry' laws have a lower crime rate than ones without. The 'threat' of a gun carrying person is enough to make a lot of people think twice about doing something stupid.


Shep

Strong Bad

I agree Shep.

In concealed carry states, the chances a criminal runs into someone carrying a gun are higher, so they tend to think much harder about actually committing the crime. In non-concealed carry states, who the hell is going to oppose you!

It's a proven fact. Concealed carry states have less crime than non-concealed carry states. It's the threat that makes the difference.

Maryland, for example, has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Crime in Baltimore is skyrocketing!!! 4 cops shot, 1 dead in the last 2 weeks. The tighter the laws, the higher the crime rate has become. Let's see if Mr. NRA Friendly Governor-elect Bob Ehrlich re-writes the gun laws. I'm ready to pack some heat!!!!

F1nut

It should be pointed out that regardless of the gun laws in Maryland, the people shooting at cops and shooting each other don't give a rats **** about the law. They all carry guns and they know it, but that doesn't concern them because they have no respect for human life. Most of these murders are in Baltimore City and Prince Georges County (next to D.C.) in areas that no law abiding citizen would be in to begin with. Even if we had a carry law it wouldn't change a damn thing with those people. I admit that I'm not up on which states have carry laws, but I'll bet they don't have the same areas and elements that I'm talking about.
I find it interesting that here in the US, the states with carry laws have a lower murder rate, but in countries like England and Germany where guns are basically banned their murder rate is very low also. Is one approach better than the other, I don't know. What I do know is that places like England and Germany don't have the "elements" that we have here and maybe that's where the real problem lies.

BTW, I'm not opposed to guns, I like to shoot, I voted for Ehrlich and I don't really have the answer. Maybe instead of sending all these people to my tax dollar funded prison so they can be with their buddies, we should drop them off somewhere in Alaska and they can all freeze to death. That might make them think twice.

Dr. Spec

Violent crime and murder rates in England have done nothing but skyrocket since guns were banned over there.

Troy makes some salient points. Bottom line: With gun ownership comes an awesome responsibility.

I'm in the right to carry crowd, and I own several firearms for hunting, recreational shooting, and self defense. I'm also a mature level headed adult who probably knows more about the laws governing the use of deadly force than the average cop. I also store my firearms in a true gunsafe when they are not in use, to prevent access by burglers and other unauthorized users.

Twice I have foiled would be robbers with a firearm - once in the city where I lived about 15 years ago, and about 5 years ago in the house I currently occupy. Both incidents ended without bloodshed. The presence of a firearm AND the resolute person behind it can be a huge deterrent to even the most desperate criminal. No one, and I mean NO ONE, wants to face the business end of a 12 gauge shotgun - it's like looking into the entrance to hell.

Troy - a trip through the annals of The Armed Citizen will lay to rest any doubts that Americans frequently use firearms in lawful self defense. Estimates from our own DOJ range from a few hundred thousand times to 2.1 million times per year.

In the same breath, rates of firearm violence resulting from criminal use of guns is even higher.

In a democracy, every right and every privilege is a double edged sword. There is an upside and a downside to the right to keep and bear arms. I exercise the right responsibly, and I urge all other gun owners to do the same. Doing so will minimize the downsides to gun ownership.

Doc

TroyD

Guys,

Like I said, I'm not against gun ownership nor am I trying to convince anyone that they shouldn't. Here in SC, it's legal to carry a concealed weapon and our crime rate has done nothing but increase. My personal opinon is that gun laws and crime have little correlation, I haven't any proof of that, just an opinion.

Prudent gun ownership is my point. Irresponsible gun ownership is a HUGE problem. There are far too many homes with kids where there is a loaded pistol well within reach.

BDT

RBreak

Well written Dr. Spec, I’m in complete agreement with you on this issue. I had fallen asleep on the couch one night, and awoke to the sound of someone forcing their way through my front door. I was able to make it to my room and retrieve my handgun in time to meet an unknown man coming through the forced open door (I didn’t have dead bolts at the time—I do now!). The man was almost through the door when he realized he had a .357 magnum pointed at him. He wasn’t a complete moron, he was smart enough to turn and run. I called the police, filled out a report and everything, and they later called me back to inform me they caught the man after he successfully entered another home and attacked a woman (she had been up when he broke in, her husband was sleeping , as was another family friend that was staying with them). Her husband and the friend (another man) were able to subdue the guy until the police arrived and arrested him. The guy had been out of jail all of two days before these incidents, his prior convictions were assault and battery and attempted breaking and entering (imagine that!). He is back in jail now, hopefully for an extended period this time
While I’m no “vigilante”, I am pretty sure I would have had a much rougher time if I had been unarmed. It could have gotten real ugly for me. As long as there are worthless **** that seem to be here for no other reason than to break laws and endanger others, I want to be able to protect myself from these idiots. If that means owning guns (in my opinion it does), then I’m going to own guns. If someone else doesn’t want to own a gun, that’s fine, but it wouldn’t be right for anyone to tell me I can’t own them, just because there are other gun owners who are irresponsible. That would be like me telling you that you can’t own a car because some people drive irresponsibly and it sometimes results in fatalities. There are hundreds of other analogies that would be appropriate here also.

TroyD, I completely agree with you also, irresponsible gun ownership is a huge problem and unfortunately there is no easy solution, in fact there is probably no solution since it is impossible to make everyone everywhere be responsible. Just like there will always be fatal traffic accidents from careless driving, there will always be fatal accidents due to careless gun owners. No easy answers or solutions.

Anyway, enough rambling for me, I’ll shut up for now. Take care!

RuSsMaN

2 words.

Education, Responsibility.

Cheers,
Rooster

Frank Z

Last year there was an elderly lady (mid 70s) in myhome town who heard some unusual noises outside her house. She armed herself with a shotgun and was well prepared when a man broke into her home. Needless to say she was able to defend herself very well, yes she shot the guy. He took off running full of buck shot and was of course apprehended by the police. It did not take very long to connect him with multiple break-in's and lo and behold he was also a serial rapist!

This wonderful lady recently received a commendation from the city!

Is everyone who owns a gun going to be so lucky, No. But I'll bet she and her family are happy that she is a gun owner.

Do I own any guns? Well you just never know! And hopefully that will be a deterent to some.