You think you have a collection? HA!

treitz3
treitz3 Posts: 19,029
edited April 2008 in 2 Channel Audio
http://tinyurl.com/32apc7 <<<Scroll over this for linky........

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~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited February 2008
    At first I thought it was a pic of the Acoustic Sounds warehouse.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • vinlee
    vinlee Posts: 4
    edited February 2008
    All I can say is "WOW"!
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  • jmwest1970
    jmwest1970 Posts: 846
    edited February 2008
    That guy needs a life. $3,000,000 would be a hell of a start. :rolleyes:
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited February 2008
    I wonder how much he had spent to accumulate his collections? I bet it was more than $3MM..unless he spent gobs amount of time in pawnshops (which I think not).

    either way, it is an amazing collections and desire to buy that many records and CDs
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited February 2008
    very cool, nice to see folks spending their money on things that matter.

    RT1
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited February 2008
    I hate to be the person who has to inventory that place. On the other hand....

    WOW!!
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  • ShinAce
    ShinAce Posts: 1,194
    edited February 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Are the records in the 2nd picture all 45's?

    Sure looks like it.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited February 2008
    How the hell did that guy get into my basement to take those pics?
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited February 2008
    That's impressive. Not including the value of the vinyl itself, I wonder how many man hours it takes to do something like that and have an inventory such as that. I bet it's triple or more than what the collection is worth.
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  • VSchneider
    VSchneider Posts: 443
    edited February 2008
    wow. I am in total state of shock.

    EDIT:
    ... an unintended pun. State of Shock was a single by The Jacksons with Mick Jagger. I am sure the collection includes that one, too.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited February 2008
    Anybody interested should feel safe with a PayPal coverage of $200.00. :rolleyes: :D

    I hope this cat stays true to his word and sells it to someone who wants to donate the collection to a museum or something...."The collection's owner is seeking a private collector or a philanthropist willing to buy and donate the collection."....and I hope also that this collection remains in the states. Who knows?

    Boy, oh boy would it be nice to just go and grab any song from any artist and get your listen on. It's funny, I think I have a good collection going and mine doesn't even come close to making a dent with what this cat has.

    BTW, I tried to put this on the "Are you the World's Greatest Audiophile" thread, but either I can't figure out how to search correctly or the thread has disappeared. :confused: I was wanting to compare the two collections to see if they even came close to having the same amount of music.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited February 2008
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60609
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited February 2008
    How'd you do that so quick? I looked for about 45 minutes!
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited February 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    How'd you do that so quick? I looked for about 45 minutes!

    I am the internet god.

    Actually no, I remember he was asian....so I typed in Japan...no luck...then I typed in China and "POOF" there it was.

    If it wasn't either of those two you woulda been SOL, since I don't know any other asian countries.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited February 2008
    without knowing how many albums, 45's, and CD's are in there.. I wonder how much it is all worth? More than what he paid for, equal to what he paid or much less than what he paid for.. if he purchased them all retail.
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited February 2008
    Well, consider the average price for a full album from the RIAA. $17.00. The price of albums have kept up pretty well with inflation, so no huge adjustment needed.

    3 million nets you still over 17.5 thousand albums.

    Now, to this guy's credit... that is a LOT of music. I have something around 3,000 albums, and it's so many that I can't even remember what I have, I can randomly pick something and suddenly re-discover music that feels like I have not heard in years, or music that was once overplayed feels fresh.

    This guy probably has many many more than 17.5k albums (50 mil worth or more he says). I cannot imagine ALL of them are full price buys, LPs, ect... The 45s for example, or small label music, and I am sure he takes every chance he can get to rummage through every bargain bin and garage sale, online auction, ect...

    With that much music... I don't know. I have over 3,000 albums and I still feel the NEED to hear what my favorite artists are up to. Imagine how many favorites he has... I can't imagine the OCD nightmare of trying to keep up with everything. Maybe that is why he is selling. OCD is an all-or-nothing proposition. When it becomes more than you can handle, it's either chunk the whole thing, or go mad.

    Reminds me of that movie "Hi Fidelity"... maybe he has them arranged autobiographically... hehe, that would be hard core.

    So... 3 million, is it a bargain or not, that is the question.

    EDIT: I missed the part about 3.3m albums...:eek: I am not sure I want that many... *decides not to bid*
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited February 2008
    Interesting ramblings Yashu.
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed and third, it is accepted as self evident.
    Arthur Schopenhauer
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited February 2008
    That collection is amazing. It will be interesting to see where this deal ends.
    Michael ;)
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited February 2008
    What makes me laugh are the people on ebay asking for an inventory list. What for? If you want to listen to it I'm sure it's there. If it isn't, after spending $3 million on that collection I'm sure you can spend $50 to buy what you are missing.

    If you look at one of the other questions, one guy did the math and this collection is the equivalent of buying 188 albums a day for 50 years straight. Obviously that didn't happen, but when looked in those terms.....insane.

    I really hope a museum or some place buys it and he doesn't end up having to part it out. Although, by the looks of it, he seems to be willing to sit and wait until someone buys the entire collection. Can't blame him, I wouldn't part it either.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited February 2008
    WOW is all I can get out.

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    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • carversound
    carversound Posts: 44
    edited February 2008
    The guy said there is 3 million albums and 300,000 cds
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited February 2008
    3.3 million discs with only 6 million song titles, someones math is f*cked...........most cds and albums contain more than 2 songs.

    It looks like he bought out radio stations, libraries, juke box vendors, etc. when the media went south. I would bet very little was actual personal purchases, most likely simple bulk purchasing for pennies on the dollar.
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited February 2008
    I hope someone buys it.
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  • capecodder
    capecodder Posts: 613
    edited February 2008
    Well, I am very surprised at the final price, just over the initial bid. I kept up with the question/answers (kinda entertaining) and got the sense that some deep pockets were going to jump on this and start a bidding war. Didn't happen. Looks like this guy took a bath over the potential "market price" but hopefully it will stay as a collection for the future. Wonder who winner was and their intentions??

    Just noticed that the listing indicated that it was

    "The Most Viewed and Watched Listing Ever on eBay!"

    I'm surprised at that but just goes to show that "vinyl rules".
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited February 2008
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    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited February 2008
    where is that Alan Parson's Project LP???????????????? I know I put it here somewhere..I hate when I don't [ut them back where I got them.

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited February 2008
    I'm naked right now, sharing a hot cup of tea with my pet trout, Ed.
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited February 2008
    Final price of $3,002,150.00????? What a STEAL!

    As a side note.... What's up with Pittsburgh, PA and Vinyl? Between this collection and Jerry's Records that's about 5 Million records in that town. My GOD!!!
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited February 2008
    Without http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU, zee collection es nothing.

    I am sure there are many many great albums here, but out of 3.3m discs, it is hard for me to get over the idea of how much crap would be part of it. Is that me thinking the glass is half empty? I am not sure. It was the first thing I thought when I saw the thread the other day... whoa, that guy probably owns some of the worst records known to man, oh, and some good ones too. It is hard not to think that way in today's climate, however... when you get down to the 50s and below, that is where this collection could really shine. Basically the idea is that music that is old enough to be in the public domain should be archived for the public. Some of the really old stuff, on 78s, some 45s, ect... there might be some really rare records that deserve to be heard, and with the best quality possible. There might be pressings in very good condition of music that may be almost lost otherwise. I say whoever buys this collection should begin donating to archive.org. "In some cases, this collection is the only known place to find original old recordings". "What we're trying to do is more than sell old records; it's preserving cultural history." Unless that preservation actually leads to public benefit, as in, planned release of every album as they reach public domain, I don't see how this preserves anything. Rare recordings on fragile media need to be archived and released, or else a simple natural disaster, fire, or whatever, could destroy them... so much for cultural preservation.

    On a serious note (no pun intended), this should be treated as somewhat of a musical trust fund... each passing year brings a percentage of this collection into the public domain. Eventually, depending on how much the government gets rick rolled by lobbyists, but eventually, this entire collection, the 20th century of music, can be free for future generations to enjoy, or at least, experience. There is no sense in this going to waste in a museum. Yes... I said it. Music is not like the visual arts, media degrades with every play, the Mona Lisa does not degrade with every set of eyeballs that cast themselves upon her. The whole thing does not need to be archived right away, but as each work falls into the public domain, so should the archival process. If I had enough cash to buy, store, manage, this sort of collection, I would have enough money to entrust that it benefits more than just a few rich music buffs.

    From the Q&A the seller says this ignorant statement that makes me wonder a bit... "but I believe boycotts end up doing little more than irritating people peacefully trying to do business. In a free market, businesses succeed or fail one customer at a time." If this is the mindset of the seller, I am not expecting anything good to come from this... It looks like the seller got barely more than the starting bid, perhaps it is deserving. It's too bad though, that this couldn't have been taken more seriously, by the seller and bidders, however, when it is all said and done, once the last crate of albums leaves that warehouse, the seller needs to pick up a history book. The free market he so willingly espouses, itself, was the result of a boycott... and don't get me started on Rosa Parks, how dare her irritate the bus company! I suppose it isn't only the young that have no perspective.

    Other laughs were this... included with the collection are!!!!! "(4)Yellow Jacket 45 RPM acid-free archival storage sleeves". That made me laugh. 4 whole sleeves eh?
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited February 2008
    http://www.vaildaily.com/article/2008658444512

    The owner needs to fire the seller. I knew it didn't go well just because of the winning bid price, but now that it's fake, it cements it further... the seller is just not a people person, needs to work on his approach. I almost think the guy deserved it, especially for putting the boycotters down, but not at the expense of the owner.

    I mean... WTF ebay? Appraised for 50 million... lets sell it on ebay. If he wants the collection to stay intact, he needs to go to a real auction house, one that ISN'T having a boycott at the moment.
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