2 channel system

crd2002
crd2002 Posts: 174
edited February 2008 in 2 Channel Audio
instead of having to move the huge RTI12's around the room all day where do you guys think that I should put the for best sound in a 2 channel rig next to he component rack?
Home Theater sony 52 inch lcd,Cinenova grande 7 channel, polk RTI8,CSI5,FXI5,onkyo 805
2 Channel rig Sunfire grand cinema 5ch,sunfire TGA III,Rotel 1072,polk RTI12,Monster hts 5100
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  • john22614
    john22614 Posts: 214
    edited February 2008
    boom boxes are easy to move around......plus, they look really cool.
    B&W 804s mains
    B&W HTM4 center
    Polk PSW 1000 sub
    Outlaw 990 Pre Amp
    Anthem MCA 30 Amp
    Monitor Radius 180 surrounds
    Audiosource Stereo Amp for surrounds
    Denon 2910 Universal DVD/SACD Player
    Comcast DVR
    Pioneer Elite 42" Plasma 940 HD
    Harmony Universal Remote
    Blue Jeans interconnects and biwires
    Itunes Air Express
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited February 2008
    crd2002 wrote: »
    instead of having to move the huge RTI12's around the room all day where do you guys think that I should put the for best sound in a 2 channel rig next to he component rack?

    You answered your own question. Put them where they sound the best.

    You'll probably need to experiment a lot with placement and toe-in options to determine this. An inch or two can make a huge difference.

    Got any pics of your setup and room?
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • furball
    furball Posts: 234
    edited February 2008
    Experiment with placement. Put them where they sound the best for you.

    Those big speakers are a pain in the neck to move around. But that's just a one time thing. After you found the right spot, you can just leave them there.
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited February 2008
    If you are using RTi12s for 2 channel, I want to suggest that you make sure you have a powerful two channel amp or integrated amplifier. Those beasts need power, and lots of it. I am not sure how you are using a 5 channel amp for 2 channel? What are the specs on the sunfire? Also, you sure you need a sunfire sub with that? I mean... if you feed the RTi12s what they need, you are going to get plenty of bass, more than enough to qualify them as full range speakers. The extra sub just complicates things even more than they are now.
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  • crd2002
    crd2002 Posts: 174
    edited February 2008
    sunfire cinema 5 200wpc and I'm going to byamp them for the best sound possible
    Home Theater sony 52 inch lcd,Cinenova grande 7 channel, polk RTI8,CSI5,FXI5,onkyo 805
    2 Channel rig Sunfire grand cinema 5ch,sunfire TGA III,Rotel 1072,polk RTI12,Monster hts 5100
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2008
    That should be plenty of power.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited February 2008
    For sale....new RTI 12'S..look good,may need new tweeters.Priced to move.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2008
    tonyb wrote: »
    For sale....new RTI 12'S..look good,may need new tweeters.Priced to move.
    Maybe, maybe not. Better than powering them with a receiver.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited February 2008
    At least I am not the only one that is wondering what this is going to sound like as a music system. RTi can be pretty bright... but if you have the right equipment, The TGA III, is that a pre/pro? All that sunfire stuff, RTi, I just don't know. Plenty of power, if you can, if that is a digital pre/pro, adjust the EQ just a tad to brush some of the sizzly treble off the top end. I don't know what kind of settings it has, but maybe it has some kind of adjustable notch you can put at the very top.
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  • crd2002
    crd2002 Posts: 174
    edited February 2008
    they sounded fine with my home theater for music so now I ordered the RTI8 from fry's and going to use the sunfire stuff for the 2 channel with the 12's if it doesn't work well then will get other speakers and sell these
    Home Theater sony 52 inch lcd,Cinenova grande 7 channel, polk RTI8,CSI5,FXI5,onkyo 805
    2 Channel rig Sunfire grand cinema 5ch,sunfire TGA III,Rotel 1072,polk RTI12,Monster hts 5100
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited February 2008
    I think it will work. I really think the 12s could be good for music if you have the right amplification. RTi always imaged well, and the 12s are full range, so you shouldn't need a sub if you can get enough power to them. Actually, it might work out great, because subs are best left for HT, though I am sure some people aren't going to agree with that, but I think full range speakers are better than trying to integrate an extra bass driver in some asymmetrical spot in the room.

    The 8s might even be better for your HT, since there, you can have a sub, and it might be easier for your HT system to drive, while providing for a better crossover point for the LFE stuff.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited February 2008
    crd2002 wrote: »
    sunfire cinema 5 200wpc and I'm going to byamp them for the best sound possible

    thatsa gonna make the 12's SING!! might not be the most subtle or laid back, but that thing will rock the house down! I'd be very intrigues to get ears on that system, whats gonna be your source for 2 channel?

    biamping is a great way to fly for power hungry speakers in my experience
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2008
    I would recommend some warm sounding cables such as Signal's Analog Two interconnects.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited February 2008
    Are those cables really actually warm sounding? I am interested. The warmest cables I have are wireworld something or others... Warm is relative. Sorry to derail, but if they were actually warm, like... sweet sounding even on hyper-detailed systems, I would be very interested.
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  • crd2002
    crd2002 Posts: 174
    edited February 2008
    oshkigod you are welcome to come and hear them I'm in NY dutchess county if you want to come by let me know
    Home Theater sony 52 inch lcd,Cinenova grande 7 channel, polk RTI8,CSI5,FXI5,onkyo 805
    2 Channel rig Sunfire grand cinema 5ch,sunfire TGA III,Rotel 1072,polk RTI12,Monster hts 5100
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2008
    They are warm without muting the details. If you don't like them, Frank has a 30 day return policy.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • crd2002
    crd2002 Posts: 174
    edited February 2008
    yashu they will be biamped that why I bought the 5 channel amp and yes the sing very well and loud
    Home Theater sony 52 inch lcd,Cinenova grande 7 channel, polk RTI8,CSI5,FXI5,onkyo 805
    2 Channel rig Sunfire grand cinema 5ch,sunfire TGA III,Rotel 1072,polk RTI12,Monster hts 5100
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited February 2008
    Yashu wrote: »
    I am not sure how you are using a 5 channel amp for 2 channel? What are the specs on the sunfire? .

    Do you REALLY need this explained to you?? :rolleyes:

    I've found Sunfire gear to be quite musical. Rock on.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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