Surge Protection

kitjv
kitjv Posts: 30
edited February 2008 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
Before I power up my new 2-channel system, it would seem prudent to have a quality surge protector. Recommendations? Thank you.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2008
    Whatever you go for, DON'T go on the cheap. There are a lot of good companies out there making very good surge protection devices.

    Quick story. My cousin who is ALWAYS penny wise and dollar foolish asked me the same question. I directed him to a piece from PS Audio and one from Monster. He decided to go on the cheap and purchased a $50 surge protector strip. He had a power outage yesterday due to all the wind and lost power. When the power came back on buuuuuuuzzzzzzz, the surge protector burned up; it did however save the flat screen TV but that was only by the Grace of God. The outlet, cord, and breaker were fried. Had he the better protection he wouldn't be paying an electrician right now to fix his problem.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,184
    edited January 2008
    kitjv, you can play your rig tonight without surge protection and all will be well. Some purists don't use them and others wouldn't run their rig without one. I would recommend doing some research and get SP that would be a one time purchase.

    What is your budget for one?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited January 2008
    Silly question, but, how about redundant surge protection? I've got 2 surge protectors, and was thinking of plugging one into the other, then the rig?(until I get a power conditioner)
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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  • wizzy
    wizzy Posts: 867
    edited January 2008
    TrippLite has been around forever. They're known for high quality, affordable equipment.

    Something like this HT10DBS is one of their higher end units. It has a decent amount of EFI filtering built in, and the cost isn't crazy high.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2008
    Monsters are good in this department.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
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    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2008
    obieone wrote: »
    Silly question, but, how about redundant surge protection? I've got 2 surge protectors, and was thinking of plugging one into the other, then the rig?(until I get a power conditioner)
    Big no no!
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • seeclear
    seeclear Posts: 1,243
    edited January 2008
    Face wrote: »
    Big no no!


    Why is that?
    "Don't forget to change your politician. They are like diapers they need to be changed regularly, and for the same reason."
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,184
    edited January 2008
    Restrictions. I'll leave it at that. ;)
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Restrictions. I'll leave it at that. ;)
    Coming from another non electrical engineer, that's a good way to leave it. I know it can be a fire hazard and offers less protection. You can google for more info.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • Acadian
    Acadian Posts: 60
    edited February 2008
    My vote would be NOT Monster. I am by no means an expert, nor am i a "Monster hater"...lol.

    I've lost 2 PCs (or parts of them) to power surges in the last 3 years....yes hard to believe, but i'm not lying. I have one of those $200-$300 power bars from Monster and it failed to protect my PC both times.

    In Monster's defence, they did cover the cost of the parts (not the labour), but it's a hassle and a long wait without a functionnal PC. They also tested the power bar and result was that it wasn't defective....which scares me a bit.

    I have since bought another brand...something like $25 or so.
    Rti8
    CsiA6
    Rti4
    PSW505
    Yamaha 6050
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  • wizzy
    wizzy Posts: 867
    edited February 2008
    I would buy TrippLite over Monster.

    TrippLite is a real company that has been in the business of power for decades. Monster power equipment is hype.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,055
    edited February 2008
    As much as I am trying to replace my Panamax 1000+ (only cause I want something new) it's proven to me as a good machine. I live in the burbs where they are putting up houses everywhere (mine is just 1 yr) So they turn the power off often enough to connect the new areas. I have not lost one piece of gear YET..... we've been in this house since July 2007 and we've lost power 4-5 times.
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  • kitjv
    kitjv Posts: 30
    edited February 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »

    What is your budget for one?

    Rather than stating a budget, let me say that my system costs about $15K. I am looking for an effective surge protector (w/o power conditioning) that will offer exceptional protection without having to pay a premium for unnecessary fluff. Thank you.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2008
    http://www.richardgrayspowercompany.com/product.htm
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • vonnie123
    vonnie123 Posts: 326
    edited February 2008
    Check out Belkin and APC power conditioners. APC H10/H15 also has Automatic Voltage Regulation which level the voltage to your equipment on the fly without employing battery backups. I bought my H10 at bhphotovideo.com for $200.
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  • wizzy
    wizzy Posts: 867
    edited February 2008
    kitjv wrote: »
    Rather than stating a budget, let me say that my system costs about $15K. I am looking for an effective surge protector (w/o power conditioning) that will offer exceptional protection without having to pay a premium for unnecessary fluff. Thank you.

    So, buy tripplite :)

    http://tripplite.com/about/history/index.cfm

    Really, in the computer world they're considered top of the line as far as surge protection goes. I've been using their stuff for 20+ years.

    You really won't find anything better per dollar spent than a good TL protector. They were the first company that pioneered effective EMI/RFI filtering in a home/small business at a reasonable cost with their ISOBAR products from years and years ago.
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited February 2008
    belkin pf60 is on sale at frys electronics for under 200

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62792
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
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    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
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    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
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  • seeclear
    seeclear Posts: 1,243
    edited February 2008
    [Nevermind, screwed up info]
    "Don't forget to change your politician. They are like diapers they need to be changed regularly, and for the same reason."
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2008
    SlowcarIX wrote: »
    belkin pf60 is on sale at frys electronics for under 200

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62792


    I just picked up one in black the other day...
    Solid unit....

    after the mail in rebate ($55) , it was $204 and change...
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,055
    edited February 2008
    seems like a good deal

    http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=88106
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited February 2008
    Crazy cheap Willow, nice find.

    I have an Adcom ACE-515 and it seems solid. I haven't had any problems with it and it seems to do it's job.
    Jake
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,055
    edited February 2008
    thanks, I'm tempted to get one. But it probably won't happen :(
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,055
    edited February 2008
    I might have a Panamax 1000+ for sale shortly, I won a Monster 3600 on the bay , I really like the look of M's power conditioners. Once I get I'll compare it to my Panamax. Another reason why I bought the Monster is that it has more plugs which I need.
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  • jazzisnumberone
    jazzisnumberone Posts: 53
    edited February 2008
    I use Belkin and Monster. Both good units..
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,055
    edited February 2008
    If I had not scored the Monster for cheap I would have never bothered as my Panamax seems to do a good job, but this way I will be able to compare it and sell the one I don't want or use it on my computer and replace the one in the home office.
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  • vonnie123
    vonnie123 Posts: 326
    edited February 2008
    zingo wrote: »
    Crazy cheap Willow, nice find.

    I have an Adcom ACE-515 and it seems solid. I haven't had any problems with it and it seems to do it's job.

    ACE 515 is a good device; replaced mine last year since I needed more outlets.
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  • bsoko2
    bsoko2 Posts: 1,449
    edited February 2008
    I had a electrian install a surge supressor on the main so the whole house is covered and I also run a monster unit for my HT gear. Now, I have double coverage and we have had a few outages this year due to storms.

    Bill
    My 2012 HT Room - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1416077/bsoko2-new-ht-june-2012
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  • carversound
    carversound Posts: 44
    edited February 2008
    You have $15,000 worth of gear, get the best powerstrip;
    http://www.psaudio.com/products/quintetmoreinfo.asp
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  • Rike255
    Rike255 Posts: 131
    edited February 2008
    http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10033669&logon=&langid=EN#

    I was going to get this one. Does anyone know if it's any good? I don't really know anything about surge protectors so...
    Polk Audio RTi8 Fronts
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    Polk Audio RTi A3 Surrounds
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    Sony Playstation 3 120GB Slim
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  • wizzy
    wizzy Posts: 867
    edited February 2008
    I think TrippLite makes the best surge protectors out there ... Search J&R for HT10DBS
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