Dented tweeter?

Braddles

I am having a dispute:mad: with some one and i thought i would pose the ? to you people.

I have a B&W center speaker (4 now) and it has been dented by my 3 year old.

Is this the tweeter itself or just a dust cover???????

Cheers

Sherardp

Hard to tell without a pic.

Braddles

BTW cant tel any diff in sound.

john22614

I had the same thing happen to one of my Monitor Radius 180 speakers and discovered that when I pressed lightly with my finger around the edges of the dent.....it popped out and went back to normal. I just had to work gently around the edges a little. The material is remarkably light and thin. This might work for you too. You might want to call B&W and see what they say. I was pleasantly surprised to discover how easy it was to fix. And, by the way, I didn't notice a sound difference either, but I hated the way it looked. I keep the grills on now. I don't know if it's a dust cover or the actual tweeter, but I am glad it's back to normal. It's part of a nice little second system I have in my den.

venomclan

I went through this last year with my B&W center channel. I did not notice any difference in sound at all. B&W told me that the entire tweeter needed to be replaced ($107), even though it was just the dust cover. I replaced the tweeter, my dealer did it as a warranty exchange, and the new tweeter had a problem as the sound was off. So B&W sent me another tweeter that I installed and it was ok.

My advice, if you hear no difference in sound then just keep it the way it is and put the grills on so there can be no damage. If you decide to sell the speaker down the road, get the replacement then.
Venom

Yashu

pic looks like an aluminum tweeter dented like a crushed coke can... not good.

I could see how it wouldn't sound horrible with movies, I mean... it is still going to move back and forth to generate sound... just... well, the structural integrity of the dome is gone so lots of weird phase distortion from the weird walls, and then you get resonances that the dome structure was supposed to protect against. Basically, if you still think it's sounds ok, I suppose it depends on if it is "ok" enough or not. For me, it would not be ok, I would be sitting there figuring out how to put electric fencing around my listening room that would only allow me to pass through, or just order a replacement tweeter and tell little johnny if he does it again he is going to inherit crap someday and have to go off to college with speakers with broken tweeters that his friends will make fun of him for when they come by to play xbox5000? I don't know, hehe... I poked in a woofer when I was 4, and one day my father gave me his stereo and speakers. Good vintage stuff. I carefully unpoked it, refoamed them, and used them for years after. I was only like 10 at the time, but having them suddenly be "mine" made me suddenly not want to destroy them for no reason, but rather fix them and listen to Yes albums. I was a weird kid.

Your kid has reached the speaker poking stage in his life... It's a good thing, actually, because I did it because they FASCINATED me. Here I am a reformed speaker poker and true to heart audiophile.

I say get replacement tweeters, and then when your kid gets older, you will have something nice to hand down, with a story to tell, all while giving you a reason to upgrade, of course.

Early B.

It's an easy fix. Try double-sided tape.

jakelm

Yashu wrote: »

pic looks like an aluminum tweeter dented like a crushed coke can... not good.

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You know how I fix it when I have a crushed beer can??????





















..I get another beer.. can you replace the tweeter with B&K?

kuntasensei

Double-sided tape or scotch tape wrapped around a finger will probably pop that sucker back out. Doesn't take much. Either way, if you don't hear it and leave the grilles on, don't worry about it.

Yashu

Try double-sided tape.

Doubt that will work on the aluminum, at the very least, it will have crease marks and no longer benefit (fully) from the dome structure.

Think of an egg... you can't break a raw egg with your bare hands no matter how hard you squeeze, but if that egg has even one tiny crack, or if your hand has a ring on a finger, really anything that distorts the shell just enough to make the energy transfer not even, squash, egg all over the place. The tweeter, moving at 20khz or more, in one second, without perfect shape, you are going to get resonances. The dome tweeter was invented to stop a problem with traditional ones, at the time, they would not move as a single unit in the very high frequencies... the middle would be going in while the outside would still be coming down... not good if you want those clear HF sounds. The dome is one way of trying to have the entire radiating surface move as one unit even at 20khz, and with a crease or bump in the aluminum, really, anything that breaks that dome structure, it is going to react wildly when being moved back and forth 20,000 times per second.

If it sounds ok, then that's fine, maybe it is my OCD talking, but I would not be able to take my mind off of what *could* be different, what I *may* be missing, ect... if 100 bucks gets you a new tweeter, go for it. B&Ws are good speakers...

Willow

you could try sucking it out! I think there was a thread about that in the past.

HiPerf360

Willow wrote: »

you could try sucking it out! I think there was a thread about that in the past.

That actually works, i did it with a friends silk dome tweeter worked just fine

jakelm

HiPerf360 wrote: »

That actually works, i did it with a friends silk dome tweeter worked just fine

YYYYYUUUUUUUKKKKKKK!!!!!:eek:

davidfmartin

You can also try lightly chewed gum. But I agree with others, if it sounds ok don't worry and keep the grill covers on.

Sherardp

Oh thats not bad, agreed, 3M tape or maybe the Vacuumm to suck it out(not sure if the latter is 100 proof though)

Braddles

Thanks for all the advice guys but you missed the point.

What i need to know, is this the actual tweeter or just a dust cover???????

Early B.

Braddles wrote: »

Thanks for all the advice guys but you missed the point.

What i need to know, is this the actual tweeter or just a dust cover???????

It's part of the actual tweeter, not a "dust cover."

miner

Use a $9.99 Glad vacuum 'sucker' that is used to create a vacuum in the Glad freezer vacuum bags. Just don't get carried away with the amount of suction.

ShinAce

Please do not try to repair it. That is an aluminum dome tweeter(not a cover) and made of very thin metal(almost foil). Trying to get it back in shape will likely break it completely.

Like you said, you should not notice a difference in sound.

SKsolutions

Don't blow it, suck it.

kuntasensei

SKsolutions wrote: »

Don't blow it, suck it.

Boy, if I had a dollar for every time I've said that to a woman...