Cable Question
Serendipity
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A while ago I tried to see if cables made a difference in my system. I was surprised by the results due to the fact that cables made a difference. However, I didn't hear a truly tremendous difference between any two sets of cables.
I did my test with the following:
1. Cables that came with a DVDP/VCR
2. RadioShack Gold Series Cables
3. Straight Wire Analog Cables
I found out that there was a slight difference between the Straight Wire analog IC's vs. my old RadioShack cables. However, I'm not sure if I could hear a significant difference if someone were to swap out the cables while I was blindfolded.
The real surprise came when I tried the stereo cables that come in the box with a DVDP/VCR... quite a difference between those cables and the Straight Wire analog IC's. The bass was much less refined on the cables that came in the box.
Now my question is: Should I do more testing or spend more time with the Straight Wire cables? It seems as if the RadioShack Gold cables are sonically 99% of the Straight Wire IC's, yet the RadioShack cables cost much less???
I did my test with the following:
1. Cables that came with a DVDP/VCR
2. RadioShack Gold Series Cables
3. Straight Wire Analog Cables
I found out that there was a slight difference between the Straight Wire analog IC's vs. my old RadioShack cables. However, I'm not sure if I could hear a significant difference if someone were to swap out the cables while I was blindfolded.
The real surprise came when I tried the stereo cables that come in the box with a DVDP/VCR... quite a difference between those cables and the Straight Wire analog IC's. The bass was much less refined on the cables that came in the box.
Now my question is: Should I do more testing or spend more time with the Straight Wire cables? It seems as if the RadioShack Gold cables are sonically 99% of the Straight Wire IC's, yet the RadioShack cables cost much less???
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The more revealing your system is,the more you will hear what cables can do.If you are happy with what you hear,why spend more?HT SYSTEM-
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I just wanted to find out if cables made a difference.polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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buy some used ICs, it's a no brainer. if you like what you hear, keep them. If you don't, sell them. This is how I have found what I like and don't like. I don't care what anyone says, I found it made a difference, that's all that matters as it's MY system.
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buy some used ICs, it's a no brainer.
On another note. IC's, SC's, PC's can make a slight change in the end result as to what hits your ears. Don't expect that the sound will have a change like that of changing an amplifier as you'll never be happy. What you are hearing is just a start and you will experience more as your journey continues but I'm not gonna tell you what they are [for obvious reasons] and I will let you make your own discoveries. Congratulations on your new found sound.
Also, disregard everything your teachers tell you [as I've told you over the phone] when it come to your audio. Make your audio journey one path and your electrical journey another path. Your ears will thank you for it.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
On another note. IC's, SC's, PC's can make a slight change in the end result as to what hits your ears. Don't expect that the sound will have a change like that of changing an amplifier as you'll never be happy. What you are hearing is just a start and you will experience more as your journey continues but I'm not gonna tell you what they are [for obvious reasons] and I will let you make your own discoveries. Congratulations on your new found sound.
Sure, I was just expecting a large difference between cables, yet I only heard a slight difference between any two IC's that I swapped out.
A few years ago when I compared my Onkyo as an amp vs. an Adcom GFA-535, I heard a big difference between the two. However, IMO, there wasn't that much of a change when swapping cables. But like I said they still made a difference.
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Like everything else,the more you move up the ladder,the bigger the difference you'll hear.Give Ben's IC's a whirl.If you compared an Onyko avr to an Adcom amp,your not even talking apples and apples.You have to decide your own upgrade path untill your happy with what you hear.Everything in the chain will make a difference.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Like everything else,the more you move up the ladder,the bigger the difference you'll hear.Give Ben's IC's a whirl.If you compared an Onyko avr to an Adcom amp,your not even talking apples and apples.You have to decide your own upgrade path untill your happy with what you hear.Everything in the chain will make a difference.
I'm probably the youngest on this forum, so I really can't afford IC's right now because I have to buy textbooks and stuff.
But when I do get the chance, I will give them a try.polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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School??
Very over rated!!:)
Seriously,stay there as long as you can if someone else is paying for it.I mean untill your like 30.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
School??
Very over rated!!:)
Seriously,stay there as long as you can if someone else is paying for it.I mean untill your like 30.
If someone else is paying for it? Haha, I've got a scholarship...polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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I'm probably the youngest on this forum, so I really can't afford $120+ IC's right now because I have to buy textbooks and stuff.
But when I do get the chance, I will give them a try.
This guy's silver cables are quite awesome and about half the price of where other silver cable prices even start. For $81 shipped it's a great deal. Only problem is they don't have the name recognition so you wouldn't be able to get as much on a resale probably, but believe me these are good.
http://cgi.ebay.com/99-999-Pure-Silver-Sonnet-Interconnect-II-1M-Pr_W0QQitemZ140200909935QQihZ004QQcategoryZ64591QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones -
I'm probably the youngest on this forum, so I really can't afford $120+ IC's right now because I have to buy textbooks and stuff.
But when I do get the chance, I will give them a try.
Thanks
BenPlease. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
Thanks
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Price aside, Ben makes some damn fine sounding cables. Top notch quality as well as fair pricing too. I'm pleased.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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Comparing those 2 wires is like comparing a pinto to a chevette in the audio world. Please delete that price from this thread. I take care of Polkies better than that.
Thanks
Ben
Sure, no problem!polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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If someone else is paying for it? Haha, I've got a scholarship...
Must be a sports scholarship, cause you dont know jack about Physics...
or how to hook up a sub....lol:p:pMonitor 7b's front
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Must be a sports scholarship, cause you dont know jack about Physics...
or how to hook up a sub....lol:p:p
Haha, I found that really funny.polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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Monitor 7b's front
Monitor 4's surround
Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
M10's back surround
Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
Harman/Kardon AVR-635
Oppo 981hd
Denon upconvert DVD player
Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
Mit RPTV WS-55513
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B&K AV5000
Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek: -
I know how to hook up a sub. I just didn't know about the "Double Bass" feature.polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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...and I got an A in Physics...polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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Monitor 7b's front
Monitor 4's surround
Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
M10's back surround
Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
Harman/Kardon AVR-635
Oppo 981hd
Denon upconvert DVD player
Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
Mit RPTV WS-55513
Tosh HD-XA1
B&K AV5000
Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek: -
Thanks, now how am I supposed to hook up that sub again?
I figured it out. You connect it to the "Tape loop" jacks on the back of the receiver
But the volume control doesn't work!!polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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Thanks, now how am I supposed to hook up that sub again?
Take that long round thing.. and put it in that short round holey thing..Monitor 7b's front
Monitor 4's surround
Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
M10's back surround
Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
Harman/Kardon AVR-635
Oppo 981hd
Denon upconvert DVD player
Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
Mit RPTV WS-55513
Tosh HD-XA1
B&K AV5000
Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek: -
Thanks, now how am I supposed to hook up that sub again?
I figured it out. You connect it to the "Tape loop" jacks on the back of the receiver
But the volume control doesn't work!!
Because thats for DUCK tape...Monitor 7b's front
Monitor 4's surround
Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
M10's back surround
Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
Harman/Kardon AVR-635
Oppo 981hd
Denon upconvert DVD player
Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
Mit RPTV WS-55513
Tosh HD-XA1
B&K AV5000
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Because thats for DUCK tape...
You'd be surprised how many students in my Electrical Engineering class can't figure out how to get Dolby Digital to work on a DVD Player! They all use the analog cables!polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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You'd be surprised how many students in my Electrical Engineering class can't figure out how to get Dolby Digital to work on a DVD Player! They all use the analog cables!
EE class deals with mostly voltage, amps, currents...etc Kinda hard to find that in a 1's and 0's toslink cable...Monitor 7b's front
Monitor 4's surround
Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
M10's back surround
Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
Harman/Kardon AVR-635
Oppo 981hd
Denon upconvert DVD player
Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
Mit RPTV WS-55513
Tosh HD-XA1
B&K AV5000
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EE class deals with mostly voltage, amps, currents...etc Kinda hard to find that in a 1's and 0's toslink cable...
This reminds me of my friend who's mechanical engineering major...when his car stalled he tried to push it for like 5 minutes and got nowhere. He then realized that the tranny was still in "Park."
HAHAHAHAHApolkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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This reminds me of my friend who's mechanical engineering major...when his car stalled he tried to push it for like 5 minutes and got nowhere. He then realized that the tranny was still in "Park."
HAHAHAHAHA
No way...thats funny.
My sister is a A+ bookworm, but has absolutly no common sence...Monitor 7b's front
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Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
Harman/Kardon AVR-635
Oppo 981hd
Denon upconvert DVD player
Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
Mit RPTV WS-55513
Tosh HD-XA1
B&K AV5000
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He was also an A+ engineering student but couldn't figure out how to push a car!polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
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