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Serendipity
Serendipity Posts: 6,975
edited January 2008 in The Clubhouse
Sorry to bother you guys, but I have this homework question that I'm stumped on:

"You're 1.5m from a charge distribution whose size is much less than 1m. You measure an electric field strength of 282N/C. You move to a distance of 2.0m, and the field strength becomes 119N/C. What is the net charge of the distribution?"

I was trying to find out a way to calculate the charge, but I'm not sure where to go with this. All I understand is that the electric field decreases with distance?? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited January 2008
    The answer is C. Statistically C is the correct answer 80% of the time.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,951
    edited January 2008
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    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited January 2008
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    i get 807.44n/c

    A 42% increase ever .5m you move closer.

    But I could be wrong
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    282 @.1.5m
    400.44 @1m
    568.62 @.5m
    807.44@0m
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,951
    edited January 2008
    jakelm wrote: »
    282 @.1.5m
    400.44 @1m
    568.62 @.5m
    807.44@0m

    Looks more like Russ's booze level on a Friday night.:p
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited January 2008
    jakelm wrote: »
    i get 807.44n/c

    A 42% increase ever .5m you move closer.

    But I could be wrong

    How did you get that? I'm less interested in the answer, more interested in understanding the problem.

    As I said before I was trying to calculate the charge, but there must be an easier way...
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    appadv wrote: »
    How did you get that? I'm less interested in the answer, more interested in understanding the problem.

    As I said before I was trying to calculate the charge, but there must be an easier way...

    Ok . You have the measurement between 2.0m (119) and 1.5m (282). 119 devided by 282 is .42

    42% is the increase every .5m you get closer.

    Now go from 1.5m to 1.0 and add 42%
    Now go from 1.0m to .5. and add 42%
    now go from .5m to 0m and again add 42%

    a charge is constant, it does not change. so an increase between 2.0m and 1.5m is the same as the increase between .5m and 0m. So the % of increase or decrease never changes.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2008
    The answer is C. Statistically C is the correct answer 80% of the time.

    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    Demiurge wrote: »
    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

    60% is an F.

    But 100% of 60% of the time is pretty good.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited January 2008
    jakelm wrote: »
    Ok . You have the measurement between 2.0m (119) and 1.5m (282). 119 devided by 282 is .42

    42% is the increase every .5m you get closer.

    Now go from 1.5m to 1.0 and add 42%
    Now go from 1.0m to .5. and add 42%
    now go from .5m to 0m and again add 42%

    a charge is constant, it does not change. so an increase between 2.0m and 1.5m is the same as the increase between .5m and 0m. So the % of increase or decrease never changes.

    Okay, cool! I was getting nowhere when trying to calculate the charge, but then after you explained I realized the charge is constant and you can solve it your way.

    Thanks!
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2008
    jakelm wrote: »
    60% is an F.

    But 100% of 60% of the time is pretty good.

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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    Or I could be completely wrong and it could be something like this.


    http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cfadd/1360/25ElPot/Continu.html
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    I think I am competely wrong at this equation, I must look like an idiot...lol
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited January 2008
    Nah, I don't get it either...
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    So what is it? Did you figure it out? What equation are you using?
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited January 2008
    jakelm wrote: »
    So what is it? Did you figure it out? What equation are you using?

    I thought I was close, but you can say that I didn't figure it out yet.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    I understand.

    Is there something missing from your question? A charge distribution less than 1m? Thats it? Is it an atom? What formula are you using? I wish I could help.. Good luck
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  • nms
    nms Posts: 671
    edited January 2008
    This sounds like a Physics 208 problem (electromagnetism, charges, electricity, etc). Couldn't you use point charge formulas? I threw away all my notes from last semester so I can't really help you too much :(
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    Inside the field is always zero.

    Maybe this..

    sigma=-qd/[r^2+_d^2]^{3/2}

    Dont ask me....I read somewhere about using an image charge..
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited January 2008
    nms wrote: »
    This sounds like a Physics 208 problem (electromagnetism, charges, electricity, etc). Couldn't you use point charge formulas? I threw away all my notes from last semester so I can't really help you too much :(

    I'm not sure if I could use point charge formulas in this case???

    Anyways, the question in the first post is the entire question.
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