Michael Jackson erases Paul McCartney's voice from Thriller
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Jacko Erases McCartney
The new mixes for Michael Jackson's 25th anniversary of "Thriller" are
out. And guess what? Paul McCartney has been erased from "The Girl Is
Mine."
It's a new kick in the teeth for McCartney, who essentially lost the
rights to his song catalog during the recording of "Thriller" and that
song back in 1982. It was at that time that the Beatle shared
information with Jackson, who turned it over to his lawyer, John
Branca.
Now Jackson and producer Will.I.Am have remixed "The Girl Is Mine,"
originally a duet between McCartney and Michael. As far as the new
recording is concerned, Paul is dead. SO to speak.
Three other remixes of Thriller tracks have turned up today on YouTube
including Kanye West's sluggish take on "Billie Jean."
If the idea here was for these new generation producers to reintroduce
Jackson, it may not have been such a good idea. Will.I.am's remix of
"Pretty Young Thing" comes from a demo track and doesn't sound much
like anything. Only Akon's remix of "Wanna Be Starting Something" has
a fresh reference. But it's Akon's voice that takes the lead, with a
little of Jacko's old vocal mixed in for good measure.
Will these remixes sell more copies of "Thriller" or restore Jackson's
prominence? Maybe. But the pictures of Jackson from 1982 when he was
still dark skinned and halfway normal looking are hard to rectify with
the current model.
It looks like he's been remixed too.
The new mixes for Michael Jackson's 25th anniversary of "Thriller" are
out. And guess what? Paul McCartney has been erased from "The Girl Is
Mine."
It's a new kick in the teeth for McCartney, who essentially lost the
rights to his song catalog during the recording of "Thriller" and that
song back in 1982. It was at that time that the Beatle shared
information with Jackson, who turned it over to his lawyer, John
Branca.
Now Jackson and producer Will.I.Am have remixed "The Girl Is Mine,"
originally a duet between McCartney and Michael. As far as the new
recording is concerned, Paul is dead. SO to speak.
Three other remixes of Thriller tracks have turned up today on YouTube
including Kanye West's sluggish take on "Billie Jean."
If the idea here was for these new generation producers to reintroduce
Jackson, it may not have been such a good idea. Will.I.am's remix of
"Pretty Young Thing" comes from a demo track and doesn't sound much
like anything. Only Akon's remix of "Wanna Be Starting Something" has
a fresh reference. But it's Akon's voice that takes the lead, with a
little of Jacko's old vocal mixed in for good measure.
Will these remixes sell more copies of "Thriller" or restore Jackson's
prominence? Maybe. But the pictures of Jackson from 1982 when he was
still dark skinned and halfway normal looking are hard to rectify with
the current model.
It looks like he's been remixed too.
PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
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Not cool I agree
But I haven't brought a Michael Jackson CD like never.
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I'll buy anything he releases no matter what. Hopefully it will be available on vinyl.
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Because he is a puss....
I wont buy anything of his past or present. -
I'll buy anything he puts out but I still think he a dick who doesn't have one.
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That prevert never has nor ever will get any of my business.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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You mean me and Bruce can't bring over Jacko music?
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You can bring it over, but you won't leave with it in one piece. Bruce knows.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Lol!
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ok this is a side bar and nothing scientific..but I was in a cool local bar last night and MJ's - I wanna rock with you.. came over the speakers.. and believe it or not... everyone in the bar was jamming to this song.. young, old, even the bartender was getting into it.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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You mean caved in.
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Interestingly enough, the original Thriller was an outstanding pop recording, thanks mostly I believe to Quincy Jones' production.
Redoing it for the 21st Century (irrespective of the snub to Sir Paul) reminds me of Joni Mitchell's quip from Miles of Aisles:Nobody ever said to Van Gogh, "Paint A Starry Night again, man!" -
I deplore Jacko as a person, but... some of his music sure is great.
At this point most of the money just goes to lawyers and lawsuits anyway, so you're more paying for that than paying to him when you buy stuff
If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
It's Mike's music, so he can do what he wants with it.
From a business standpoint, it's probably a smart move it remix it. Now the die-hard MJ fans will want to purchase the "new" recording.
From an artistic perspective, that's what musicians do -- change it up so it doesn't always sound the same.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
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I thought he was still in the middle east molesting young camels.
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Molesting camels was so last-yearish...
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danger boy wrote: »ok this is a side bar and nothing scientific..but I was in a cool local bar last night and MJ's - I wanna rock with you.. came over the speakers.. and believe it or not... everyone in the bar was jamming to this song.. young, old, even the bartender was getting into it.
People definitely connect with the old MJ. When I was part timin' at CC, I'd kick on MJ and always get a positive reaction with people singing or dancing. -
Regardless of all of his wierdness (That man never had a chance for any kind of normal life) he is one of the most talented musicians of the 20th century. His music will & has withstood the test of time.
As for what he is doing with Thriller now? I couldn't care less, I have the original & it ain't going nowhere!Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Molesting camels was so last-yearish...
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danger boy wrote: »Jacko Erases McCartney
The new mixes for Michael Jackson's 25th anniversary of "Thriller" are out. And guess what? Paul McCartney has been erased from "The Girl Is Mine."
Jackson may have had some contractual reason(s) to remove McCartney's vocal tracks from "The Girl Is Mine".
It is most likely that Jackson did not have a contractual agreement to use McCartney's vocal tracks in any "derivative" works (e.g. remixes) made from the original recording, and they had no choice but to edit McCartney out of the remixes. Often, a recording artist, or the record company they are under contract to, will agree to the use of an artist's voice on a particular work, but not for any derivative works made from the original work.
If the producers of the original work want to use McCartney's voice on the remixes, then they most likely would have to pay him again...this is assuming he even agrees to be involved in the remix project.
The liner notes for Thriller do not indicate that McCartney was under a record company contract at the time he worked on Thriller. There is no statement that says "Paul McCartney appears courtesy of ________ Records". Therefore, I do not think the omission is indicative of non-agreement from a record company. It might be that McCartney just did not want to be involved with or associated with the remix project...perhaps due to the hip hop and rap artists involved in it. Some artists do not want to be associated with rap or hip hop in any shape, form, or fashion. It might also be that McCartney agreed to the use of his vocals, but he wanted a price the producers were unwilling to pay.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
