Has your system ever lost its Mojo?

Polkitup2

My 2 channel system consiting of a NAD C370 integrated, Denon 3910, and Tyler Linbrooks has lost its mojo. One day I was in sonic heaven, then I tried using an Audioquest Viper cable instead of the jumpers on my NAD, left it that way for a week, decided I didn't like it as well and put everything back the way it was. Now no mojo. I can't put my finger on exactly what I don't like as the imaging is still excellent, sounds are coming from where they should be, just seems like the mid range is too forward, bright and overbearing with vocals. I'm going to double check everything this weekend. Heck, maybe I've just hit the point where my brain says I'm tired of listening to the same equipment.

george daniel

you might want to try some tubes in the mix,,just a thought.

reeltrouble1

you are being punished by the audio gods for illicit tampering with your system, you need to remove your pants and do the Dance of Joy around the rack to appease their nature.

Have fun and I recommend doing the dance in front of the Mrs. it really makes em freak out!!!!!!!!!!!

RT1

Polkitup2

reeltrouble1 wrote: »

you are being punished by the audio gods for illicit tampering with your system, you need to remove your pants and do the Dance of Joy around the rack to appease their nature.

Have fun and I recommend doing the dance in front of the Mrs. it really makes em freak out!!!!!!!!!!!

RT1

You should have seen my wife's expression last night when I told her that I thought my 36" CRT TV sitting between my speakers was interferring with my sound and needed to be replaced by a flat panel set. She already thinks I'm nuts.

Polkitup2

george daniel wrote: »

you might want to try some tubes in the mix,,just a thought.

Yea, I keep kicking around the idea of a tube pre, just not sure I am ready for tubes quite yet.

Early B.

Polkitup2 wrote: »

My 2 channel system consiting of a NAD C370 integrated, Denon 3910, and Tyler Linbrooks has lost its mojo.

You can expect the loss of mojo to occur like once a week. Your system didn't change -- you did. Depends on your mood, time of day, menstrual cycle (for girls and for husbands who catch hell during this period), lunar cycle, proximity to payday, kid concerns, number of beers, etc. You get the idea. At this moment, the worse thing you can do is take advice from us on what should be upgraded.

BTW -- those Linbrooks would benefit greatly from a tube CDP.

VR3

Sorry to hear of your system woes...

I no longer can relate, but I use to! Good luck

danger boy

turn your system off for about 4 or 5 days.. don't even power it up.. then come back.. you and your system's mojo will be found again.

VR3

I dont know if a tube CDP would be the best route

But throw some more power on those Tylers, tube pre, maybe a tube CDP, but I think to much tube is a bad thing... and it should be 100 times better. Ty's speakers are pretty power hungry

TroyD

DB has it right. Every once in awhile you need to just let it be for awhile.

BDT

heiney9

danger boy wrote: »

turn your system off for about 4 or 5 days.. don't even power it up.. then come back.. you and your system's mojo will be found again.

+3....

George Grand

Darrin once lost his remote, but not the mojo, and it was still one of the funniest things in the Polk archives.

Ferres

The Audioquest Viper cable may not have been to your taste but my guess is it produced a cleaner sound that you got a little used to.

Try out more cables and go up the food chain.

BaggedLancer

Good luck finding your mojo.

markmarc

Unless you had a concussion or was around loud noise for an extended period of time, your brain is playing games. Leave the system alone for a week, listen to a boom box. Then go back to the rig, the psychology of it all will bring you back to happiness I'm betting.

madmax

Sometimes and inch difference in speaker placement or a degree of toe in can make all the difference in the world. Did you move the speakers?
madmax

hearingimpared

danger boy wrote: »

turn your system off for about 4 or 5 days.. don't even power it up.. then come back.. you and your system's mojo will be found again.

No no no!!!! Leave it powered up but don't listen to it. Then go back to it 4 to 5 days later. The longer you leave gear powered up the better it sounds and mojo is evident.

dorokusai

Lost mojo? Never.

Systems

This is why I'm glad I travel so much with my work. I'll be gone for 1-8 weeks at a time. I get back home and damn it sounds good. The rig I have in my truck sounds pretty damn good and I do listen to it a bunch. Driving anywhere from 5 to 16 hours at a time. When I get home its....turn on the amp to warm the tubes...unload the truck...shower....open a bottle of wine.....sit back and enjoy some tunes until I have to hit the road again.

dkg999

They say those magic pebbles help attract the mojo back and then make it hard for it to leave again :rolleyes:

Maybe the AQ jumpers were better than you thought, not that cables make a difference mind you.

And not listening to your system for a few days can definetely give you a new perspective when you turn it back on :eek:

Polkitup2

madmax wrote: »

Sometimes and inch difference in speaker placement or a degree of toe in can make all the difference in the world. Did you move the speakers?
madmax

Didn't move the speakers, tried a diferent amp and CDP tonight but still the same suckola. I think I just need to stay away for awhile.

hearingimpared

Make sure you leave everything powered up in the idle state.

danger boy

STAY AWAY or your mojo may be gone forever ha ha ha.

I think I saw your mojo ordering a latte at Starbucks today

cubdog

I have two totally different systems set up in my main listening room. I alternate every week or so. Each system always sounds best that first day.

cubdog

reeltrouble1

well I told you to do the dance......man your screwed, you may need an exorcist after all this time.

RT1

hearingimpared

I know a good one!

beardog03

now a couple of days to a week aint gonna do it...


you need to leave it powered up, and turn the dial all the way down for at least two weeks or more...

Do the nekkid mojo dance...


Then put a Cary Tube pre in the mix...!!


Mojo found !!

reeltrouble1

You may be on to it Bear, sadly the NAD might of served its purpose and needs to let way to some hi-fi mojo.

Yep I feel it........mojo rising...........still recommend the nekkid dance in front of the wife though and a dedicated 2-channel, no TV in the room at all.

thats how we roll.

RT1

george daniel

reeltrouble1 wrote: »

You may be on to it Bear, sadly the NAD might of served its purpose and needs to let way to some hi-fi mojo.

Yep I feel it........mojo rising...........still recommend the nekkid dance in front of the wife though and a dedicated 2-channel, no TV in the room at all.

thats how we roll.

RT1

did ya'll pick up on what he just said :)

steveinaz

Usually when this happens to me, it's because I've made more than 1 change in my system at a time, and it seriously screws with the synergy--did you change anything else?

Yashu

That is a good amp... I don't think it is the problem. There is something you may want to try though...

NAD makes one hell of a good amp... the amp in the 370 is nothing to laugh at, even at it's price... it is the kind of amp that will grow with whatever pre that you attach to it. I strongly suggest trying out using the 370 as an amp, and looking into a new pre, perhaps with tubes.

The other thing I suggest is new source. Again, the NAD is a good amp, it's the c160 and the c270 rolled into one, and I can attest to them both being wonderful, with both having their advantages (although I still say that NAD hobbles the pre sections in their integrateds, the c370 is *supposed* to have a full c160 pre inside, though, so don't know if that one is an exception to the rule). Anyway, I think you should look into a DAC. There are some really great DACs out there on the market right now, and you can hook your CDP up to it, look for one with a tubed output stage, maybe something like an MHDT Paradisea or Scott Nixon Tube DAC. You seem to be looking for mojo, well that means musicality, and with digital, you get that with non-oversampling DACs.

For a reference, I have a NAD integrated from the same series as the 370 being used as an amp, and it has only grown with pre and source upgrades. You have to spend a lot of money to out-pace the amp section of the NAD, and *if* the 370 really does have a c160 for it's pre section then you may want to try other stuff before giving it the toss.

Give the gain adjustable pre-out a shot too if you can, I don't know how sensitive your speakers are, but if you can't turn the volume knob more than 1/5 before your ears are bleeding, you may want to notch the pre out gain down 3-6db. The class A stage of your pre should be used to it's fullest, and it would also give you a reason to try more cables between the pre out and main in. Try directional cables with a little capacitance (those little jumper bars work for the little NAD amps, but you basically have a set of separates, so treat them right)

Oh, and one more thing. Turn the soft clipping off. It gives those amps a harsh edge to the sound and only makes them hotter than they need to be. Unless your speakers are really bad loads, you aren't going to need soft clipping, and it just increases THD for no reason, and not in a good tube way. I hate how mine sounds with it enabled. It makes it fatiguing.