Reckhorn B-1 Bass Management System

zingo
zingo Posts: 11,258
edited January 2008 in Electronics
GV#27 and I were yacking about the Reckhorn B-1 Bass Management System. It looked like a pretty cool little unit. Does anyone have any experience with this piece, or other Reckhorn equipment. It's available for $79 which sounded like a pretty good deal.

http://www.reckhorn.com/index.php?ln=en&prod=b1
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Jake
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited January 2008
    Kicks ****....built like a tank...high quality adjustments ...dead silent....has the perfect adjustment range as well as a very nice subsonic filter. Both myself and a buddy of mine picked ours up a couple of weeks ago from here
    http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=B-1 ....bout time something so cheap is built so well and works as advertised.
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited January 2008
    Here's the little bastage in use :) My adjustments for this particular setup are subsonic set to cut below 12Hz....boost set at 20Hz...boost level at 6.5db...overall level set at just over mid level...high cut OFF ( LFE signal ) works flawlessly.
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited January 2008
    Mains for the mini man cave system :)
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    Shadow I see you built a center channel like mine. Which mx65's did you use? The 03's? I used a peerless tweet, and a Monitor 10a xover.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited January 2008
    Nice set-up. I'll be using it with these boys that I just finished. (disregard the B&Ws and receiver) We'll it looks like with the B-1 then since you have liked it. After the next pay check, Bass management here we come!
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    Jake
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited January 2008
    I believe I used some shielded Vifa's ...got em from Madisound a while back...believe these are the ones. http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=297-308
    http://www.partsexpress.com/pdf/297-308.pdf
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    shadowofnight wrote: »
    I believe I used some shielded Vifa's ...got em from Madisound a while back...believe these are the ones. http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=297-308
    http://www.partsexpress.com/pdf/297-308.pdf

    I gotcha.. I went with the mw6503's, perfect tember match to my 7's. I heard things about the Vifa's though.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited January 2008
    zingo wrote: »
    Nice set-up. I'll be using it with these boys that I just finished. (disregard the B&Ws and receiver) We'll it looks like with the B-1 then since you have liked it. After the next pay check, Bass management here we come!

    I wanted to try it ...you will not be disappointed.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited January 2008
    Ya, I was a little disappointed when I run the subs for the first time yesterday. First, they are internally crossed at 140Hz which is high, but that will just provide protection once I have the B-1. Also, they are about 87db/1w efficient, so they get lost when running them line level with main speakers on the same volume control.
    Jake
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited January 2008
    jakelm wrote: »
    I gotcha.. I went with the mw6503's, perfect tember match to my 7's. I heard things about the Vifa's though.

    I tried 03's in there...then had the Vifa's sitting in a closet and wanted to try them...they sounded fine so I used the 03's elsewhere. That bedroom is like my test cell...the red headed **** of a stepchild room for testing...computers...speakers...electronics..etc. It never stays the same for more then a couple of days :)

    Matter of fact I think the 03's went into the main speakers that are in the same room right now.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    shadowofnight wrote: »
    I tried 03's in there...then had the Vifa's sitting in a closet and wanted to try them...they sounded fine so I used the 03's elsewhere. That bedroom is like my test cell...the red headed **** of a stepchild room for testing...computers...speakers...electronics..etc. It never stays the same for more then a couple of days :)

    Matter of fact I think the 03's went into the main speakers that are in the same room right now.

    I want to build a room like that. Hell , it doesnt even have to be connected to the house, just nearby walking distance....lol...
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    They do look like they are in the photot of the mains, with the RDo tweeter. What xover are you using?

    Geeezz,,,look at me asking all these non topic related questions...sorry...
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited January 2008
    jakelm wrote: »
    They do look like they are in the photot of the mains, with the RDo tweeter. What xover are you using?

    Geeezz,,,look at me asking all these non topic related questions...sorry...


    We have to wait till Zingo gets his B-1 shipped to his house anyways to continue the B-1 talk ;)

    If you notice the crossovers ( Well the outer cover anyways ) have no serial number on them...I got a lot of polk crossovers years ago new from the factory. These happen to be monitor 10 crossovers...the 10" radiator is rear mounted ala CRS+ style...internally braced extensively....real veneer...etc
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    shadowofnight wrote: »
    We have to wait till Zingo gets his B-1 shipped to his house anyways to continue the B-1 talk ;)

    If you notice the crossovers ( Well the outer cover anyways ) have no serial number on them...I got a lot of polk crossovers years ago new from the factory. These happen to be monitor 10 crossovers...the 10" radiator is rear mounted ala CRS+ style...internally braced extensively....real veneer...etc

    Very very nice. I was going to ask if they were ported, but the Pr would be better. I ported my center channel, only because of tuning, for vocals. Seems like the cabinets are about the same size as the CRS. A job well done.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited January 2008
    No hard feelings on the thread. It's funny how some topics spawn other topics, and like shadowofnight said, it will be a better discussion once I get my B-1, now that I know I am going to get the B-1.
    Jake
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2008
    shadowofnight wrote: »
    Kicks ****....built like a tank...high quality adjustments ...dead silent....has the perfect adjustment range as well as a very nice subsonic filter. Both myself and a buddy of mine picked ours up a couple of weeks ago from here
    http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=B-1 ....bout time something so cheap is built so well and works as advertised.
    Its nice to hear a good report from someone who actually uses one.
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  • AudioFilet
    AudioFilet Posts: 235
    edited January 2008
    I'm curious as to how this thing works. How can you have "bass management" when this has only one output? All the crossovers I have seen have at least a high & low pass output. How do you hook this up & use it?
    2 Channel rig:
    LSi9"s (modified xover's) & HSU Sub
    Harman Kardon HK 990 Amp
    Onkyo C-S5VL SACD
    Music Hall MMF 5.1
    Furman Elite 15

    HT rig:
    HK AVR-745 & Polk Monitor Series
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited January 2008
    http://www.reckhorn.com/manual/user_manualB1.pdf ...Look on page 4
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2008
    AudioFilet wrote: »
    How can you have "bass management" when this has only one output?
    Subwoofer controller might be a better description.
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  • AudioFilet
    AudioFilet Posts: 235
    edited January 2008
    So, I take this thing is used either for enhancing the bass response of a speaker system without a subwoofer, or as a subwoofer crossover for a sub that does not have a crossover?
    2 Channel rig:
    LSi9"s (modified xover's) & HSU Sub
    Harman Kardon HK 990 Amp
    Onkyo C-S5VL SACD
    Music Hall MMF 5.1
    Furman Elite 15

    HT rig:
    HK AVR-745 & Polk Monitor Series
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2008
    AudioFilet wrote: »
    So, I take this thing is used either for enhancing the bass response of a speaker system without a subwoofer, or as a subwoofer crossover for a sub that does not have a crossover?
    Yes.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited January 2008
    Nice little unit there, how much does these go for? Im curious as to how it would compare to the velodyne SMS-1. Obviously the Velodyne has tons more input, but as for Bass Control which would give better sound ouput? Any thoughts?
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2008
    Sherardp wrote: »
    Nice little unit there, how much does these go for?
    $79
    Im curious as to how it would compare to the velodyne SMS-1. Obviously the Velodyne has tons more input, but as for Bass Control which would give better sound ouput? Any thoughts?
    With the SMS 1 having the DSP room correction I think it would likely be the winner on most counts but it does cost substantial more.
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited January 2008
    I might try this one too http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?products_id=657 just to compare....but the B-1 is perfect for what its designed to do.
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