Caps. How long do they take to charge?

treitz3
treitz3 Posts: 19,550
edited January 2008 in Electronics
Caps. How long do they take to charge? That's a question given by a fellow Polkie on a different thread.

What gives?
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited January 2008
    About 2 weeks, why?















    Just kidding. A cap for car stereo? Only a few minutes or so with the right resistor tied into it.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,550
    edited January 2008
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    I was specifically referring to his claim that caps can take hours, or even days to charge fully. It's ****, plain and simple. If it were true, every time the cap discharged, which they do constantly, it would be days before the sound returned to normal.

    You guys all tend to think there is some kind of "magic" in electronics. There isn't.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2008
    The thread you read that in was a little more complicated than caps just charging. I think it has more to do with the amp stabilizing. I leave my amps on all the time unless I am going away, or a sever thunderstorm is coming. Caps do stay charged for a long time unless there is a bleed off circuit incorporated in the design. I believe that an amps caps charge to full capacity fairly quickly, but total saturation may take longer.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,550
    edited January 2008
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Caps charge in milliseconds. In the case of an amp, they are constantly charging and dis-charging while playing music. So the idea that it can take hours (or even days) to fully charge is ridiculous.

    I can't think of anything else in an amp that needs to "charge".
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited January 2008
    they have different rates, RC is the value

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,550
    edited January 2008
    He is referring to how a sonic change can occur [during burn in / stabilization] when it takes milliseconds to charge a cap, how this could possibly affect the sonic qualities of an amplifier.

    Obviously, he would like to know.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2008
    Who cares?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,550
    edited January 2008
    He does. He can't make a thread of his own concerning this question, so I made it for him.

    Y'all have fun.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2008
    Just curious, treitz -- how many beers have you drank tonight so far? :)
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,792
    edited January 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    He does. He can't make a thread of his own concerning this question, so I made it for him.

    Y'all have fun.

    No I don't care. I know the answer, and it's not hours or days. The question asked was rhetorical, This may help you:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question

    As far as capacitors, this may help you:

    http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/capchg.html

    Learn a little, or just keep getting your "knowledge" of electronics from sales brochures. I don't care.
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,795
    edited January 2008
    Tom, stick your tongue across the terminals and see if they're charged. Little tingle = not charged. Picking yourself up from across the room = fully charged. Report back with your findings. Thanks.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,124
    edited January 2008
    It's the charge/discharge cycle that burns in a cap. Generally, 100 to 400 hours are needed for everything to gel. That's straight from a guy who designs, builds and sells caps for a living. My own experience backs it up.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited January 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    It's the charge/discharge cycle that burns in a cap. Generally, 100 to 400 hours are needed for everything to gel. That's straight from a guy who designs, builds and sells caps for a living. My own experience backs it up.

    Ah you stole mine! Oh well, just as long as he does it.