FRUSTRATED ! Need help and advice ..please

sandelman

Here's what's going on. I have a 1994 Pioneer VSX D603S. Old ....I know.
There is no sub ports on this unit, only center, front and rear right and left.
It's been connected to a Polk RM5000 set of speakers, also 1994. I've had good surround with all the speakers but recently bought an older power sub that was made by Polk back in the day. My Pioneer doesn't have all the different switches and buttons I've read about in past posts. i.e. LFE and the like. It's got A and B speakers and standard or surround mode.
I have had the regular woofer connected to this unit and it seems to work fine, but the power sub hasn't made a sound as of yet. I have tried to connect it every way I can think and have read here about, but nothing.
The power sub has RCA input and output line level ports, volume control, frequency 50, 75 and 100, a "phase switch that shows REV / NORM and then high level input and high level output.

I have tried so many combinations and have not had one sound at all.

I bought this unit from a gentleman in Vegas who does high quality A/V installs for 20 plus years. He seems to be very very helpful and sells very nice quality gear.

I've not been able to make contact with him today. He may be working, phone off or on a vacation.

I could really use someone's help.......big time !!

Thanks in advance.

Carl

treitz3

EDIT; [sorry, I'm under the weather] Do you have an available tape loop out or an RCA jack [L+R] available in your amp?

sandelman

I am such a noob at the language although I'm over 40 years old. When you say speaker "b", that would be on my receiver correct? I don't have a seperate "amp". Just the receiver and there are no RCA ports on the receiver, but the "b" is not in use. What are "IC's" ? Sofrry, I am asking silly questions, but I just don't know.

treitz3

I apologize. Are you using one of the tape deck outputs on your receiver?

IC = Interconnect.
Speaker "b" = the speaker B button on the front of the receiver, engaged and amplifying.

sandelman

No, I'm not using one of the tape outputs? I only use my unit to watch movies on. It's in the lower level of my home and we never play music there. I am attempting to connect the power sub for movies.

Should the PS only work at certain sound levels or any time there's a rumble?

Are you suggesting that I connect from the "b" speakers and run to the PS?

treitz3

sandelman wrote: »

No, I'm not using one of the tape outputs?

Then you might have a line level out controlled by the receivers volume control. Connect this line level out to the line level in [RCA jack] on the sub.

sandelman

I wish I did....have any of the above. I just can't figure it out. I just tried to connect the "b" speakers to the sub and tried both in and out, but not a sound. I have my dvd paused on a car explosion and that's what I test it on, but no matter what I do....I get nothing at all. I sure do appreciate your help.

I'm open to all suggestions.
Thanks again

John K.

Carl, when you refer to a "power sub", I assume you mean one that has its own internal amplifier to power it and has a power cord, of course. The first thing to determine is whether that internal amplifier is actually operative or whether the "gentleman in Vegas" sold you a defective unit. Probably the easiest way to do this is to disconnect your main speakers and connect the speaker wire for one of the main channels to the sub as if it was a main speaker. Set the frequency control to the maximum of 100 and play something that you know contains some bass sounds. If you still get no sound(with the power switch, if any, on the back of the sub on, of course), the indication is that the sub amp is defective. If you get sound, report back.

sandelman

Yes, it is as you say about plugging the unit into a wall socket. It seems like I had connected the unit the way you described, but it was using the "B" speakers. I will try tomorrow when I wife isn't sleeping. Thanks for the input and I will get back in the a.m.

Thanks again

danger boy

turn the amp on on the subwoofer.

sandelman

Your kidding ....right?
I come here looking for help and you tell me to turn the amp on.........

Hey thanks, I'll get right on that......

sandelman

Ok, this morning I have started over. The PS was off and I took the wires to one of my rears that I knew had sound and one from a front and connected them and turned the PS on. Nothing. I changed the wires from input to output and all variations. The only thing that I can hear is the PS turning on and off......internally....there's a click.
If I press my ear to the back of the PS where the amp panel is, I can hear a buss or hum.
I just don't get it.
I've tried the pro-logic, surround theater, dance, hall and other settings. I've put on an old album.........yes an old album that I know has some good bass, but still not a thing.

sandelman

This was actually the information I based my buy from and also spoke to the man twice before buying. Do any of you read anything here that would tell you the unit is not compatable with my receiver?

"Up for sale is a hard to find Eosone RSP-912 Audiophile 12" subwoofer. Eosone is no longer producing speakers and subwoofers, however, their legacy lives on. Eosone speakers and subwoofers are one of my highly recommended products. Eosone speakers were premium built and redesigned Polk Audio Product (just like Toyota builds Lexus). They were marketed towards the high end audiophile listener and built with premium components; the result was speakers that not only sounded incredible and have withstood the test of time. Eosone speakers were highly acclaimed and received several awards including product of the year and currently are still recognized as one of the best speaker designs in the speaker designers hall of fame. The RSP-912 is an outstanding front firing 215 watt powered subwoofer. This wonderful sounding subwoofer articulates both music and theater extremely well. It is a hard hitting, smooth sounding subwoofer with excellent control, stability and incredible impact. I really enjoyed listening to this subwoofer its very non-fatiguing that blended extremely well with my Martin Logans. If you are in the market for a window rattling, bone jarring, chest pounding subwoofer and you want a great sub that is well built enough to handle critical listening, not just a box that rattles in the corner this Eosone would be an excellent choice. Meter tested this subwoofer produced a continuous 28Hz; Eosone did a fantastic job on the 912. The cabinet is internally braced, corner blocked. The amplifier is housed in its own air tight compartment. This reduces a likely hood of unwanted standing waves in the enclosure. The amplifier to the 912 is no sloutch; it is a real world amplifier, not just a transformer with a few caps, coils and output transistors but a high quality well built amplification stage that is capable of delivering nearly 300 watts of dynamic power. You will definitely be impressed with the intense output and clarity of the 912's amplification stage. This Eosone subwoofer is a well rounded subwoofer that I am sure you will enjoy for many years to come.

This subwoofer works absolutely perfect and sounds fantastic. The 12" driver is in perfect physical and working order with no signs of deterioration. All buttons, lights, switches work as intended with no glitches or surprises. This sub was adult owned and very respected. It comes from a smoke free environment so there are no odor issues. The subwoofer came from an upgraded system where it was well taken care of and never overdriven. It has been completely bench and scope tested. It also has been placed on a signal generator to insure proper operation.

As you can see from the supersize photos this sub has a very nice appearance. There are a few light marks that are only visible upon very close inspection. The black piano finish top has a few light marks that can only be picked out when viewed in the light at an angle. There are no deep scratches to the finish, no dinged corners. The bottom of the cabinet at the rear has an imperfection to the plastic base material (see pics). This is the only imperfection worth mentioning. The grill cloth is in excellent condition. Once placed into your system and in standard room lighting, this subwoofer will have an outstanding appearance. I am sure you will be completely satisfied with its overall appearance and excellent sound quality.

**This well built Eosone sub is very heavy and it's weight is 61lbs prior to shipping, so boxed properly it will weigh close to 70lbs.

Power handling 125W RMS / 250W Peak

* Impedence 4 ohms
* Power is 250 watts RMS (400 watts Peak)
* 2 inch voice coil
* SPL is 91db at 1 watt at one meter
* Freq. Response 20 Hz. to 1500 Hz.
* Part Number on the woofer is 1RD0001-2
* FS - 23.8926 Hz.
* Revc - 3.2038
* Zmax - 21.2296 ohms
* Qes - 0.5382
* Qms - 3.0342
* Qts - 0.4571
* Le - 2.0306 mH (at 1 kHz)
* Vas - 176.2302 L "

sandelman

Well, I finally got ahold of the man I bought the PS from. Wow, what a great guy. As it turned out, a wire came off the back of the woofer in transit. It works great and does it ever have power.

treitz3

Good to hear. Rock on sandelman.

Systems

The suspense was killing me.