REga P1 TT......

beardog03
beardog03 Posts: 5,550
edited January 2008 in 2 Channel Audio
I was looking at this table as an entry level player...
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=REP1

Cash is short, so I can`t go much higher...

Is this a descent table for the $$ ?

Or this one...
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=MHMMF2%2E1

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=MHMMF2%2E2

I know this has been hashed out a thousand times...and I`m gonna go there again..

I will be using the Cary SLP98P as the phono stage pre.....

Thanks for your time joe...!!

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Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2007
    Go with the Rega. They are known for the quality of their entry level TTs. I would be hard to go wrong at that price.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2007
    Great TT for the entry level, confused vinyl lover.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2007
    that would be me !!

    Thanks !
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2007
    I know nothing about cartridges...is the one that comes with it a good one ?

    Will I even know the difference with my gear ?

    I have decided to try out the Vinyl (dark) side , as my LP collection seems to be growing without my even trying ..!!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited December 2007
    Beardog, this TT is the one that got me started back into vinyl. Decent player for the $$$, nice sound and nothing to beat yourself over the head with if you ever have second thoughts. I purchased mine for 300 smackers brand new with the Ortofon cart. and was able to unload it for 220 smackers a couple of months later. [upgraded].

    If I were to start again, I would make the same decision. ;)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2007
    BD The Rega would be a good choice because they are always offering upgrades to the platter, bearing, tonearm etc. I, personally would go with the Rega P3. Save up your money and because the P3 is leaps and bounds better than the P1 and it has a lot of the attributes of the P5, P7, & P9. I believe it is in the $700 area. The P1 & 2 have an MDF platter which for my tastes is pure ****. Atleast the 3 has a glass platter which is upgradable and you can clamp a record down right on the glass rather than use one of those crappy felt platter mats. As a matter of fact that glass platter will allow you to use a carbon fiber mat if you can't get your hands on a decent clamp.

    I think that if you can bide your time and save up for the 3 you won't get upgraditis for quite awhile.

    My second choice here would be to go with the Pro-ject table that Ricardo purchased. It is a mid-level table with high end sound.

    Also, take your time as you may find a good used table out there that will give you all you could want in a table like a vintage VPI HW 19 series of tables etc, etc, etc.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2007
    I would skip the P1 and go with at least a P2. Then you can eventually upgrade to the P3's motor, tone arm, and glass platter. But if you can, follow Joe's advice and just save for the P3, it'll save you money in the long run.
    FYI, the NAD 555 is a rebadged Rega P2 with a different cartridge.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited December 2007
    BD,

    While I think the Rega P1 is a good entry level choice (as would be offerings from Music Hall or Pro-Ject)....I gotta go with HI and say you might be better served looking a bit farther up the food chain.

    BDT
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2007
    The only experience I have is with the Rega P-25 which is pretty much the one the present P-5 became, I really like this table and have tweaked it a bit. I am using a MM cartridge by clearaudio. This is a very warm yet detailed combination good channel seperation, dynamics and all that jazz, the TT was enjoyed by the guys at the Fest. As some sort of comparison I have about two large (retail new)in mine. I am using a pretty good phono pre with it, which does make a difference, I had a entry Parasound when I started and it was fine, the tone though is better with the present phono pre in my Sig. I would think the Cary would be nice but really have no reference.

    Rega tables are easy to set up, you will be spinning in about 15 min. If time and cash are the concern then I say go for the P-1, knowing you Robert you will at least want the level of the P-5 if it turns out you like the Rega and vinyl in general. So I would wonder if spending the extra dough for a p-2 or a 3 would be worthwhile. If you want to wait then I would assume the p-3 would be the ticket, however, I have never heard one, seems like someone here should have??

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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2007
    I had a P-3 briefly which sounded really nice but I traded it in for a VPI Scout which pummeled it to oblivion...and laughed....mercilessly.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2007
    I think that VPI is around 5x more than the budget, but nice to know. VPI only makes nice stuff.

    RT1
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2007
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    I think that VPI is around 5x more than the budget, but nice to know. VPI only makes nice stuff.

    RT1

    It is. I was just being silly. The P3 did sound really nice though. Had I not heard the Scout I would never have missed anything.
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    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited December 2007
    Whats the major difference when you move up the food chain. Going from say $350 to $1000.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2007
    oh, just little things like the sub-platter, platter, motor, tonearm, plinth, suspension, its a vicious circle of upgrade, Max has the most into a TT around here, he once posted one of his TT buds told him he had a nice "entry" set-up. Bastages these TT hardcore types.

    Since several guys had the P-1 and liked it seems like a good place to start, but it also seems they all upgraded in short order.

    RT1
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited December 2007
    I got the Pro-ject RM5 with a Dynavector 10x5; I am sure that there are lots of better TT's out there, but I honestly don't feel that need of upgrading.
    I will try to avoid listening to higher end TT's to stay happy ;)
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited December 2007
    Basically, I've found that with turntables, the improvements are more dramatic than with pretty much any other component.

    More money in a table brings more everything. More weight and impact to the bass, the highs are more smooth and extended...more holographic imaging. The backgrounds are blacker and quieter and surface noise is reduced. Upgrading a table is maddening, almost. I've been through it, I know. I'm to the point with my VPI HW-19mk IV that it's about as tricked out as I can get it and I love it but I'm sorta on the fence of moving on to the Scoutmaster which at first will be more or less lateral...but the upgrade path on that, sky is damn near the limit.

    Anyhow, a good entry leve table will get you about 75% of what vinyl has to offer. You'll get the smooth, warm, seductive sound...and that's the whole point, it'll give you a lot. Enough to hook you into going farther and farther up the food chain. That's the whole point.

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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited December 2007
    I think I'm about to order me a new TT as well. But I'm going to get the NAD C555 which is a rebadged Rega P2 basically. It retails for $600 but I can get it for about half of that (new) because I have a "connection/friend" there. :D It has the MDF platter but can be upgraded to the glass one sometime later. THis TT will be leaps and bounds above the other more "vintage" turntables around here. Although, they do sound quite good when set up right. I'm a budget "audiophool" basically!
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2007
    I'm still in the camp to spend the 3.5 Franklins to see if it is something he wants to do. Not EVERYONE wants to drink the whole pitcher of upgrade kool-aid right off the bat. Given his history, Bear certainly may follow this path but for what he is wanting to spend...right now...any of the entry level table he posted will get him started. When the time comes, he can probably unload any of them for 75% of what he paid right here on the forum if he chooses to do so. I still have my $300 Goldring 1.2 table after almost 2 years and am still quite pleased...for now. Go for it Bear...test the waters.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited December 2007
    I had the P1, as previously mentioned and soon thereafter purchased a Music Hall MMF-5 with a Goldring Cart. and I concur with TroyD. The Rega will give you 75% of what vinyl has to offer, more so if you can get your hands on one of H.I.'s clamps. That right there changes the entire sound, for the positive.

    Moving up to the MMF-5 was a decision I am proud that I made. Tremendous difference? No. Difference? Yes, again...for the positive. Adding some Sorbothane risers, the Nitty Gritty cleaner, the Shark steam cleaner has made my vinyl journey [reintroduction] a pleasant one.

    While in my rig, the vinyl does not do for me what SACD does, it does offer a different sound than that of digital and I can appreciate and accept both the attributes of both formats and the deficiencies as well. Now if only I could find or develop a outer "clamp" for the TT platter, I'm sure I'd be as happy as a clam in mud.

    Ted's sounded great at PF. No complaints here.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited December 2007
    You can always upgrade to this if you aren't happy.Clearaudio_Statement.jpg
    Yours for a mere $145,000.00 :p:D Just a few more dollars.....
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2007
    As far as I can figure out the higher up the food chain you go the blacker the backround and the more "magical" the sound is. By magic I mean how much the sound seems to captivate you. Have you ever compared two sounds which on the surface seem to be the same but you find yourself all involved in one but staring blankly into space with the other? One has magic, the other one doesn't. Also, the more you pay the less surface noise you hear. In the land of vinyl $350 is nothing in the scheme of things. I say go for the rega P1. The real beauty of vinyl is all the unfamiliar cool music you can find for $1 each.
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited December 2007
    madmax wrote: »
    The real beauty of vinyl is all the unfamiliar cool music you can find for $1 each.
    madmax

    Amen. It's amazing how much vinyl I've picked up in 2007. My collection went from around 120 to 650+ in no time and I've enjoyed getting to hear lots of the music I never bought back then or that came out before my time.
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited December 2007
    madmax wrote: »
    The real beauty of vinyl is all the unfamiliar cool music you can find for $1 each.
    madmax

    So true it deserves to be quoted again.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2007
    Yea, I've picked up stuff much faster than I can play. Its cool now because I can go through my collection and pick out something new and interesting. My latest passion has been dixieland and big band stuff. Man, its fun walking out of the local Goodwill or antique shop with 40 new records for $45. To tell you the truth, the older and more obscure it is the more I'm liking it.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited December 2007
    I have been foolin' around with vinyl lately. I have a 1986 TT that was part of a whole stero set up from Technics that my brother got for his HS graduation. It was still in the box with all the packing on and around it. Is it a piece of ****? A resounding yes. But I love listening to vinyl. It does have a certain magic and different presentation of music than a cd. I have noticed a deeper soundstage and better stereo seperation. I am looking at maybe stepping up the food chain a little to a Music Hall MMF-5 or such as......US Americans:D

    My biggest problem is vibration isolation. At a certain volume I will get low frequency reverb. Not good.

    Happy New Year,

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2007
    MillerLiteScott wrote: »
    I have been foolin' around with vinyl lately. I have a 1986 TT that was part of a whole stero set up from Technics that my brother got for his HS graduation. It was still in the box with all the packing on and around it. Is it a piece of ****? A resounding yes. But I love listening to vinyl. It does have a certain magic and different presentation of music than a cd. I have noticed a deeper soundstage and better stereo seperation. I am looking at maybe stepping up the food chain a little to a Music Hall MMF-5 or such as......US Americans:D

    My biggest problem is vibration isolation. At a certain volume I will get low frequency reverb. Not good.

    Happy New Year,

    Scott


    Scott go to QuestForSound.com, Steve will give you a great price on the MMF-5!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2007
    Well with all the opinions and good information here, I think we have the big bad BearDog cornfused!!! Maybe not .. . .
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2007
    treitz3 wrote: »
    You can always upgrade to this if you aren't happy.Clearaudio_Statement.jpg
    Yours for a mere $145,000.00 :p:D Just a few more dollars.....

    Ah nobody wants that piece of junk!:eek::D
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2007
    Isn't the Project Xpression 3 their new table? Saw one on audiogon for under $400.

    http://buy.audiogon.com/cgia/cls.pl?anlgtabl&1203615676

    Don't really know much about it and do not know this seller.
    madamx
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited December 2007
    Robert, I would go with at least the P2 - for the RB250 tonearm if nothing else.
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