Appreciating the Good Times . . .

SolidSqual
SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
edited December 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
So, I sold my Rogue Audio Metis! Yup, excellent! But, now I have no preamp until my new one arrives. In the meantime, I have my Oppo 981HD hooked directly to my amp doing double duty as a preamp and source.

How does it sound? Umm. Like crap.

But at least it's music.

I can't believe I used to listen to music this way. It has absolutely no life. No snap. OR as they say over at stereophile. It does not make me feel like getting up a doing a jig.

Oh well . . . this is just proof I've come a long way. And thanks to many of you fellas here . . . I can never go to a theatre again, never listen to the radio and never listen to a piece of equipment that sounds fine to everyone else. Thanks for ruining my life!

Mike

PS an iPod is supposed to be mobile music. Thanks to you punks, my iPod now has a external amp!
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2007
    Your Welcome. Spread the addiction.

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited December 2007
    ^^^^ Ditto^^^^

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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited December 2007
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    How does it sound? Umm. Like crap.


    LOL, NICE!

    what do you have on the way? physically orderred, or just in the planning stage?
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited December 2007
    I picked up a nice Welborne Ultrapath bp. I'm really looking forward to hearing it. I am also in the process of working out a deal with a Rogue Audio Perseus to compare to the Ultrapath.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited December 2007
    ah.....yep,

    you'll be fine I'm sure :D
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited December 2007
    You're quite welcome. Get used to it...it only gets worse!!! :D In a good way!!
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited December 2007
    I didn't know a DVD player had volume control.

    So you use your ipod to hook up to a pre then to an amp? I am confused... just hook the ipod up to the amp and use the volume on that thing... probably not the best but better than a DVD player.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited December 2007
    It doesn't....there are some who think that bypassing the preamp and going straight to the amp is a 'purer' way to go.

    Most digital sources are of sufficient output to drive an amplifier.......I doubt that an iPod does (but I could be wrong)

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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited December 2007
    But if you have no way of controlling the gain, the amp is going to amplify the source to the absolute max that it is designed to do. Wouldn't that damage something, speaker, amp, or more importantly, ear? hehe...

    There has to be some kind of volume adjustment somewhere for that to work right? Like a line stage? Maybe the DVD player has a digital volume control.

    The ipod would work acceptably for this... just get a Y adapter and use the ipod volume control as the master volume control, assuming there isn't some impedance problem... I think people have done this before though. When I was a kid, I was the last person I knew to get a CD player. I had a turntable, and then I bought a Radio Shack portable CD player. This thing sounded really good, I think there was even an article about it somewhere, but anyway, I just plugged it right into the amp with a Y splitter and used the volume control on the player to adjust the volume.

    I couldn't imagine plugging a source into an amp without any control for volume.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited December 2007
    Yashu wrote: »
    I couldn't imagine plugging a source into an amp without any control for volume.

    Same here; has anyone actually done this (I mean a source without volume control). This would mean no attenuation from a preamp, or in other words, full blast. Wrong?
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited December 2007
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Same here; has anyone actually done this (I mean a source without volume control). This would mean no attenuation from a preamp, or in other words, full blast. Wrong?

    Its not full blast, simply straight up 12 o'clock. Preamps have 12-15 dbs more gain than 12 o'clock.

    I would check how much voltage your source has by running it up to 12 o'clock before trying it, but I've done it, and it does lend itself to loud listening. Sort of like riding in a car in the passengers seat at twice the speed limit. Exhilirating, but always wonderin' whats over the next hill..............:eek:
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited December 2007
    Ouch much tooooooooooooo loud. But did it sound clean????

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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited December 2007
    Welcome to Audiphile Hell HA HA HA!!!
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited December 2007
    The oppo 981 HD has an internal volume control. The major issue is that the bass sounds bloated with the Oppo and the player doesn't have enough power to drive my system to my normal hang on for dear life Led Zeppelin Moby Dick Stariway to Heaven listening levels.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited December 2007
    My Metis made the Oppo sound more than listenable, but Metis combined with my Cambridge Audio 840 . . . Well that was just heaven.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited December 2007
    Yashu wrote: »
    I didn't know a DVD player had volume control.

    So you use your ipod to hook up to a pre then to an amp? I am confused... just hook the ipod up to the amp and use the volume on that thing... probably not the best but better than a DVD player.

    I meant I have a headphone amp using my iPod as a source. I carry it all around in a nice pink hipster!
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited December 2007
    hehe... that makes more sense. Try the ipod into your amp instead of the oppo though... you might be surprised.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited December 2007
    Here is more reading on the subject:
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34211

    I don't know what the output voltage on the iPod is to know if it would work without additional gain required.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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