How small will they go? New MicroVee Sub

RuSsMaN

Velodyne has a new 'MicroVee' subwoofer.

http://velodyne.com/products/product.aspx?ID=26&sid=794l724w

2000w peak amplifier driving a 6.5" woofer with two 6.5" passive radiators. All crammed into a roughly 9 inch cube made from extruded aluminum - yours for $799 street (audioadvisor.com) .

PolkThug

That would be great for computer gaming.

hoosier21

38-120 +/- 3 db

38 and it's a subwoofer?

4lb magnet on a 6.5" drive, that's cool

AndyGwis

They should just encorporate that into a small three way speaker that gets down to 38. I guess I could get two of those microvees, glue some bookshelf speakers to the top and call them full-range.

bruss

if my svs took a crap it would look like that

treitz3

I have listened to this and my initial impression was that it sounded kind of like a one note sub, but I didn't do any critical listening. I just happened to strut into the demo room when I was waiting for some new toys while something was playing. It did however surprise me that something that small could actually produce the low end that enveloping. Maybe I'll go back in and fiddle with it for **** and giggles and see if I can't get it to sound better than it was.

I can hear it now........"that's cute" :rolleyes:

It is a small little sucker though.

XJRGUY

I don't know how 1000, or for that matter the 2000 watt figure wouldn't just blow those little toy drivers right out of the box.

How does that work?

1000 watts into a RTi12 or LSi15 would most likely destroy the bottom end (Bass) and we're talking about (3) 7 inch drivers on the RTi12.

VR3

Im willing to imagine that little driver moves ALOT

hearingimpared

I've been looking for a sub to augment the RT2000Ps I wonder if this is the one. I don't know squat about them so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

VR3

Well for starters this is hardly a subwoofer --

lol

SVS's - a little larger -- would offer you ten times the performance, especially considering it goes down past 25hz -- where as this one barely goes below 40...

At 800 bones, it would be more so geared towards a WAF, and nothing much more...

RuSsMaN

hearingimpared wrote: »

I've been looking for a sub to augment the RT2000Ps I wonder if this is the one. I don't know squat about them so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

DSW PRO, run a pair of them in stereo. Hit the product pages.

Texas42

I'd rather have a used older velodyne like the ULD-15 which was an awesome sub in its day....

millerman 3732

Where do you put a 2000w amp at on that thing, is it external, put on a shelf some where?

disneyjoe7

Class D wonder amp for sure.

Ferres

I think all current velodyne models use class D amps. This is a very scaled down version of the SPL-R series.

hearingimpared

I would like to get a sub that would fit under a large end table or if I run two in stereo then two end tables.

One question does placement matter when using two subs in stereo mode?

Thanks

VR3

They need to be close to the left and right mains

AndyGwis

Would it work to put them directly behind the mains?

I'm thinking of moving my bedroom sub and getting another to the 2-channel rig, just out of curiosity.

RuSsMaN

They don't need to be close to the mains, they need to be placed on the front stage where they sound the best, period. That may be behind the mains, between the mains, outside of the mains, firing forward, firing in, firing out, etc.

Cheers,
Russ

VR3

behind the mains, between the mains, outside of the mains, firing forward, in or out --

All are close to the mains...

treitz3

hehe, you both are correct. The Russman just elaborated a little bit more.

Yes, since the room is not anechoic the experimenting with different locations will help the acoustic properties of your room. I.E. end result as to what hits your ears.

hearingimpared

Thanks guys.

dorokusai

I love the idea of a small subwoofer, especially for simple bass augmentation but a 6 1/2" driver is pushing my envelope of plausibility.

Yamaha never pulled off the Active-Servo with a small driver so I don't expect it to be anything but a market hole filler. Velodyne is a respected name in subwoofers so I'm sure the overall investment is minimal and they will sell enough to justify the product.

mjhughes

38hz isn't very low for a sub. For the same money you could get a real sub that would go low and be of more benefit. That little sub is probably going to honk out mid bass and fool you into thinking it sounds great, but in the long run it would be satisfying.

RuSsMaN

Interesting 13th post in the past 6 years.

How about we get our ears on it, before we start 'assuming' things. Velo has been pretty good in being honest with their ratings (as is Polk). Chamber rated for the stats, more often than not in room response is (substantially) better.

Treitz3, go get a listen again and report back. I like the fact the enclosure itself is for all intents and purposes a heat sink.

TroyD

I dunno...it looks like they took the idea of the Sunfire and shrunk it down even more.

38hz ain't super deep but after you load up in a room, it'll probably go deeper than you would think. Hell, most of the 10" subs that we've all had, to include my much beloved P-dime PDR-10 were rated 'only' at 32hz +/- 3db and I never felt that it was 'lacking'.

I'd be interested to hear it...probably be good in a small room type rig.

BDT

treitz3

Just got back from auditioning this little sub and my initial impression remains my final impression. At low volumes, it would be a consideration for a musical sub that does not go deep. At loud <sub>volumes, this sub is annoyingly a "one note" sub. It's not really a sub IMO, but then again it's not what I would consider a midbass module either. Don't really know what I would consider it.

This may be good to augment with a larger sub under certain configurations and setups, but then cancellations may come into play. It seems to over emphasize certain instruments at times, depending on the material played which can be taylored a little bit to your liking by switching the phase and adjusting the crossover points. I would consider this an accent to the frequency spectrum, but not quite a sub. The envelopement of frequencies delivered spaces out nicely provided there is not a null where you are listening from.

I did not audition this with stereo subs, only with one sub and some B&W speak's. When I have the time, I'll ask John to allow me to take the Mini-vee sub out of the enclosure of the setup in the front of the store and do a direct comparison of this and the Mini-vee sub which if memory serves, is an enclosed sub selling for 100 smackers less. I'm betting that the Mini-vee would be a tad better, but who knows?</sub>