Upgrade?

PolkFan1
PolkFan1 Posts: 130
edited December 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
I was thinking of getting some lsi9's over my current rti8's.I only listen to music that is it. Mainly rock, pop , modern stuff. I am using a harman kardon hk3480 2channel receiver and like a cheap $80 dollar sony dvd player as the source to play music cd's. That is it. So I was wondering IF I were to get some lsi9's would it be a night and day difference or what? I plan to get an amp and cd player down the road.

Thank You :-)!
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2007
    I don't know that anything is a "night & day" difference, but the Lsi9, IMO would be a formidable upgrade to the Rti8.

    The Lsi9 will benefit from a powerful/good quality amplifier.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • PolkFan1
    PolkFan1 Posts: 130
    edited December 2007
    what would be a good amp? I was thinking maybe some outlaw 2200 blocks or adcom or something. By the way is the amps just as important as having a good source?
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2007
    Outlaw, Adcom, Parasound, etc, good clean power. As far as the amp/source question, I think you get more amp for the money, then you do source...if that makes any sense.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2007
    its a system with no part playing a bigger role than anything before or after itself.

    keep in mind if you were to get a "good" source its going to reveal some good things and quite possibly some not so good things about the entire rig and the formats you use, its easy to play ring around the rosey with your question, you gotta start somewhere, so the LSi 9 would be a great beginning.

    RT1
  • skipf
    skipf Posts: 694
    edited December 2007
    is your HK3480 rated to drive a 4 ohm load? Also keep in mind the LSi9's like a LOT of power. I'm pushing mine with a Carver M-500t which is approx 500 WPC into 4 ohms.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2007
    If you have a medium to large room, and like to listen at high levels, I'd recommend 200 WPC (or more).
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited December 2007
    Before considering speakers, trash the cheap source and buy a nice CD player. You haven't really heard your Rti8's yet.

    You have a nice 2-channel receiver, so hold onto that one for a while. However, it ain't gonna push the Lsi9's appropriately.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2007
    I too am in the 200 wpc camp. I would think about "bigger speakers" too. Bigger speakers usually sound better when using lesser electronics. Just opinions though.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2007
    ,.....
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2007
    skipf wrote: »
    is your HK3480 rated to drive a 4 ohm load?

    Yes. I ran 2 pair of SDAs at once(A+B) on the lower 3380 model with no issues.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2007
    you should check the flea market...there is a great cd player for sale...cheap !




    *shameless plug**



    I use lsi 9`s with a Parasound amp ....500w@ 4ohms
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited December 2007
    I've had both the 8's and 9's, and there is no comparison. The 8's threw more sound, but the 9's still kill them. I've run the both on HK, with and without a separate amp, and the 9's with just the receiver will give you good taste of what is to come when you upgrade your power. That receiver is pretty stout in the current department, but still won't match a good separate amp. You will be able to hear your upgrade improvements more so with the 9's too.
    -Ignorance is strength -
  • Chicomoralessxm
    Chicomoralessxm Posts: 417
    edited December 2007
    This is a little off track, Just wondering has anyone paired creek with polk or dynaudio before? just wondering Creek evo int amp specifically
    Chicomorales:)
  • PolkFan1
    PolkFan1 Posts: 130
    edited December 2007
    Thank you for all the help everyone. By the way my current hk3480 2 channel receiver is rated at

    150 Watts per channel, 20Hz – 20kHz @ <0.2% THD, both channels driven into 4 ohms
  • PolkFan1
    PolkFan1 Posts: 130
    edited December 2007
    Can anyone recommend a good cheap set of stands because these things are very long. I was thinking of just slapping 1 other set of 40 dollar sanus stands together with ones i have now hahaah im cheap.
  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited December 2007
    DUUUUDE........just hang 'em up from the ceiling with nets.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • cstpeter
    cstpeter Posts: 387
    edited December 2007
    PolkFan1 wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend a good cheap set of stands because these things are very long. I was thinking of just slapping 1 other set of 40 dollar sanus stands together with ones i have now hahaah im cheap.

    Audio Advisor has Energy stands on sale for $29.95. I have a pair for my office rig--very sturdy and well made.

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ENCST
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    Denon DVD-2900
    PS Audio Digital Link III w/Cullen Level IV Mods
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    Graham Slee Special Edition 2
    PS Audio UPC-200
  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited December 2007
    I have those Energy stands as well. Killer set of speaker stands for $30. They would be especially good for the 9's as they are sturdy, have a nice wide base, a decent sized top platform, and are about the right height for the taller LSi9's.

    The only complaint I have about the energy stands is that they are a bit short when using bookshelfs that are small in stature. Not tall enough to get the tweeter to the proper level and clear the foot of my bed. I have them in my bedroom, obviously.

    I will shortly have a pair of LSi7s that will be run on my HK 3480. I have no doubt the amp section will be plenty for those speakers in my smallish bedroom. I'd run the 9's on your HK as long as you like, but keep an eye out for a great deal on a 2-channel amp. You could probably find a great amp for $200 - $300 and just run the HK as your pre. Man, I have a real crush on my HK3480, so versatile for a modest 2-channel setup and leaves plenty of room for upgrade. Plus, they're only $150 - $250 new if you look hard enough.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
  • PolkFan1
    PolkFan1 Posts: 130
    edited December 2007
    I wonder how 2 outlaw monoblocks 200wpc for rti8's over my 2 channel hk3480 reciever which is only like 120wpc would do. would that make them sound better at lower volumes