image dynamics horn drivers

killerb
killerb Posts: 390
edited December 2007 in Car Audio & Electronics
i never heard a car with horn drivers. just how good are they?
kenwood excelon kdc-x991 h.u.
Rockford Fosgate 360.3 DSP
Rockford Fosgate POWER1000 running entire system
Image Dynamics IDQ12 Sub
Morel Elate 6 front stage
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2007
    If you want to spend the money, and make one bad **** installation, theyre great speakers.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2007
    Theyre loud. Thats about it.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited December 2007
    they image naturally better than any other component set I've heard... but the install is a son of a ****. They get loud as hell yes but I love their SQ.
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  • Installer4life
    Installer4life Posts: 256
    edited December 2007
    Actually the install is not to bad. I have ran the Image Dynamics entry level horns in 3 different automobiles. I used 8" midbass with the optional passive crossover. The higher up the model chain you go with these the harder they are to tune. They better they sound and they play louder but you will need a seperate amp and a very good EQ. I found that you could tune the entry level setup with the Bass Engine Pro setup in older Alpine HU. If you go that route get a headunit with time correction. Good Luck
  • killerb
    killerb Posts: 390
    edited December 2007
    i always wanted to try horns. could i use my sr6500's for midbass,or would you go with image dynamics drivers?
    kenwood excelon kdc-x991 h.u.
    Rockford Fosgate 360.3 DSP
    Rockford Fosgate POWER1000 running entire system
    Image Dynamics IDQ12 Sub
    Morel Elate 6 front stage
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,804
    edited December 2007
    Horns need space. The closer to the listening position they are, the more harsh they can be. Consequently, horns are usually mounted far under the dash, as close to the firewall as possible. Horns are very directional from a near field listening position. The farther away you get, the more room the sound has to expand. Horns live and die on reflections also. They require a ton of effort to set up but if you want clean but LOUD, they are the way to go. They are usually much more efficient than other dome-type drivers.

    However, horns make a good case for tube power. Solid state power can make them seem harsh if you don't have some real high quality gear backing them up. However, horns powered by tubes benefits greatly from the tube amplification circuits "shortcoming" of the progressive distortion rates. Tubes reach peak distortion gradually, solid state stuff is rather abrupt. That hard clipping and distortion manifests as pops and crackles like in any other speaker but because of the "bullhorn" effect of a horn, it ends up coming across about the same way as static and feedback on a megaphone comes across or, about as comfortable as nails on a chalkboard.

    Horns are not bad, not bad at all. They just require much more investment and commitment in the way of time and effort in installation. Otherwise, horns are an awesome alternative!
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited December 2007
    Anybody remember the Speaker Works Buick Regal Grand National From the late 80's early 90's. Two subs, two mid bass and two horns. Unreal sound stage in a car.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2007
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  • Installer4life
    Installer4life Posts: 256
    edited December 2007
    I heard the Grand National after Richard Clark purchased it at the Georgia Masters in the early 1990's. Best sounding car I ever heard. Period. You can use the SR6500 midbass in with the horns. I went with eights because they played louder. The first truck I put them into was a 1994 Toyota Pickup with 6.5" in the doors. Used the same horns in all vehicles.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2007
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited December 2007