abt 200 $ for an SQ oriented AMP

Aimen RG

hi
im gonna buy a amp for my db650 and 675 in a weeks time
i got about 200 to spend, has to be new
first piority would be SQ, second should be able to use with higher end speakers, in future.

but 200 doesnt get me much :mad:

so far these r wt im getting, kindly tell me which one is of suitable quality, how r MTX amps? cant have a live demo, will be shiped unheard.


JL audio a4300 (100x4) 300$
vpower mrp f450, (70x4 ) 250$
MTX thunder TA 3404 (70x4 ) 170&
MTX thunder Tc 4004 (70x4 ) 170$
Kicker ZX350.4 (70x4 ) 200$
MTX x thunder 704x (70x4 ) 200$
JBL GTO 75.4 (75x4 ) 200$
fusion encounter am6004 (75x4 ) 180$

wts with MTX lines? pretty similar specs and prices, wts the diff in them?
leave the first 2 optoins,:o , tell me among MTX, Kicker,JBL, FUSION?

MacLeod

Any of those are fine quality amps except for the Fusion. Dont think Ive ever heard of it.

Id pick the JL first then the MTX then the JBL but you cant really go wrong with either.

Greg Peters

With the exception of the Fusion, you wouldn't go too far wrong with any of those- mostly a matter of whether they'll fit where you want to install them at the price you're willing to pay. Those dbs will require you keep your gains low with most of those amp choices.

Aimen RG

thats good, someone told me kicker is all about power and SPL, not SQ, as i cant audition any, i was a bit worried. i think i will get my hands on MTX or Kicker

MacLeod

There isnt a difference between SQ and SPL amps other than one may be noisier with turn on pops and such. That being said, the Kicker is a powerhouse SPL amp, but Id have no problem at all running it in an SQ setup. Theyre well built, will cleanly make their rated power and have no noise issues that Ive seen.

1996blackmax

Aimen RG wrote: »

thats good, someone told me kicker is all about power and SPL, not SQ, as i cant audition any, i was a bit worried. i think i will get my hands on MTX or Kicker

If they were talking about their amplifiers, I would be weary of any future advice related to car audio from this person. I've gone the SQ route for many years now, dating back to the 90's. I've had "higher end" amps such as Arc Audio (several amps), and Audison. I've also run many systems with Kicker gear, including amps. If they made smaller amplifiers, I would have no issues running any of their amps in my car right now. In fact I did run a Kicker ZX750.1 and thought about getting the ZX350.4, but they were a little too big for my install.

eloplayspolo

Frys electronics over here sells fusion amps, its a discount amp, stay away.


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Installer4life

If you could get buy with a two channel amp look at the ZED AUDIO Gladius. ZEDAUDIOCORP.COM

BaggedLancer

I've always been partial to kicker amps. Have had 3 stolen, on my 4th one now. The sound is great and like others have said they are a powerhouse SPL amp. I run a kx1200.1 with two S10L7's

Aimen RG

getting zx 650.4

1996blackmax

Nice amp.... I wish Kicker started making smaller amps. I've always been very happy with all the different Kicker amps I've owned.

Aimen RG

received zx650.4 for about 250$

i plan to use two channels for main speakers, two as bridged for momo 10.

eloplayspolo

oopsy

Aimen RG

i have to mount the AMP. cant fit it near/in tyre tub.
i have to options
1) make a long box and place it near the rear seat in trunk on floor. ( see pic, blue box )
2) mount it on the back of rear seats. (see pic, red box)

problems?
1) with option 1, i waste some trunk space which is good to have.
2) with option 2, rear seats are not solid enought to mount amp to. i have to place a MDF board abt 1/4inch thick on the back of rear seats, WILL THIS EFFECT MY SOUND/BASE QUALITY??? inside the car?

if it doesnt effect effect sound, which i doubt, i will mount the amp, but if it does effect, im ready to waste some trunk space.

please post ur opinion, meanwhile i look into installation showcase for ideas.

regards

Installer4life

Mount it to the rear seats but use at least 1/2" mdf. This will give you a better surface for amp mounting. It will not effect the amount of bass.

MacLeod

It wont affect the sound HOWEVER be this isnt a good place to mount the amp.

Your rear seats are angled backwards and if you mount the amp there, it will be facing down. Amps cool by radiating heat out thru their fins and into the air. When you mount the amp facing down, and since heat rises, the heat leaving the fins will rise right back up into the amp.

If you do mount it there, it might not be a bad idea to run down to Radio Shack and pick up a small 12V fan to place near the amp to keep it cool.

exalted512

MacLeod wrote: »

It wont affect the sound HOWEVER be this isnt a good place to mount the amp.

Your rear seats are angled backwards and if you mount the amp there, it will be facing down. Amps cool by radiating heat out thru their fins and into the air. When you mount the amp facing down, and since heat rises, the heat leaving the fins will rise right back up into the amp.

If you do mount it there, it might not be a bad idea to run down to Radio Shack and pick up a small 12V fan to place near the amp to keep it cool.

The angle isnt that drastic...Ive mounted 100s of amps to the backs of seats and never had a problem with heat issues. If the seat folds down, you need to make sure to leave the seat down when youre running the wire, if not itll rip out the first time you put the seat down.
-Cody

eloplayspolo

i have u feeling u didnt do that the first time u installed cody.

Aimen RG

thank u ppl
i tried fixing 1/4inch mdf, it was not strong enough to hold the amp at an angle, it just didnt feel secure. fixing 1/2inch board behind all of the seat, and than bolting the seat to original position is very hard. (i guess im not good enough for a wood DIY )
thrfore im thinking fittin just two 1/2inch by 1inch, long , vertical wood peices, wrapin em in something similar to seat cover, and fixing the amp on them would be easier

exalted512

eloplayspolo wrote: »

i have u feeling u didnt do that the first time u installed cody.

didnt do what?
-Cody

eloplayspolo

install the wiring with the seat down, the way u said it sounded like u had personal experience.

exalted512

Ahh...lol. No, I'm smarter than that, however, when my co-worker first started, he was not.
-Cody

eloplayspolo

haha, hopefully u called him a schmuck or ****, it is well deserved.

Kinetic

what about the PDX AMPS on the SQ department?

eloplayspolo

i hear that a guy named kinetic likes them, thats a good sign that they are no bueno