pro audio / DJ amps in home systems??

peffy03

I was contemplating today, the possibility of integrating a pro audio amplifier into my hts. My setup consists of an onkyo sr604 that i have biamped on a pair of rti10s my rears are monitor 30s and my sub is a polk psw10 my center, is an older yamaha. what im thinking is that i can get a smaller crown or peavey say 200wpc x2 and use it to drive the bottom halves of my rti10s. I currently have the bottom halves set about 5db higher than the top halves so the bottom halves having an amp that is double the power of my htr should work well. i can then switch the onkyo back to 7.1 and still have the power of my rti10s where they are now. most of these amps have 5 way binding posts as output and accept 1/4 in cables in. 1/4in is easy to convert to rca so it should be easy to hook up.
So my question is do the output levels change as the volume changes on the onkyo?? anyone have any experience with this? I imagine the zone 2 would have adjustable volume, but then i would need to adjust the halves of my speakers independently, and i dont really want to do that. any ideas?

Serendipity

I've never done so, but...

There are a few forum members here that use pro amps for their home setups.

I think they make good subwoofer amps.

AndyGwis

I think it will work without a problem. . . but how well (quality-wise) is somewhat debateable.

Some people have used car amps with batteries under their couches with 'success' and this sounds much more reasonable/feasible.

Good luck with your frankensystem

Ron Temple

No pre-outs on the 604...won't work.

Joe08867

Like Ron said no preouts and I don't think the Zone 2 outs work together with the surrounds.

peffy03

im wondering if the level of the rec out for the tape deck changes with volume... ill have to pull out the voltmeter i guess
other alternative would be to purchase a pre and run it to the separate inputs of the onkyo and later i could separate the pre between the onkyo and the pro audio amp... as far as quality is concerned, when i was in school i used to run sound for concerts and plays, we had a pair of jbl cabinets that shared 3 crown macrotech amps, getting roughly 2000wRMS each. Ive never heard anything else like them in my life... i have experience with smaller crown xls series, and the peavey cs series and they all perform well. it seems i can acquire a decent pro audio amp for around 200$ thats about 200wpc at 8 ohm... if it doesn't work out ill just start dj ing again i guess

Sherardp

I dont think it will sound good. Just buy a used HT amp. There are some outlaws on audiogon going for 160 per amp, 200 x1(monoblocks).

peffy03

what about if i fed the pro amp running the bottom halves of my rti10s with my subwoofer out? i can set this to have a lpf of 250hz and adjust the lpf of my sub to make it at the level i have i set now. would this work?

cfrizz

Peffy, you need a new receiver that has preamp outputs in order to get a separate amplifier to power your speakers.

tonyb

Get your read on chief....your not grasping what others are trying to tell ya.

peffy03

i understand that my amp doesn't have preouts and isn't designed for an external amp... im just looking for a soln between what i have and getting separates... trying to explore all possible avenues
im just not ready to spend 500+ for a pro/pre and amp, but i really think that since the sub out is able to be set to as high as 250hz, that i can use an external amp to run the bottom halves of my rti10s which are subwoofers anyway. does anyone know what freq the subs in rti10s are crossed over at? if i can somehow make this work i can get my 7.1 back without losing the rti10s being biamped

cfrizz

Ehh. I give up. Just don't come back here whining if you blow up your speakers!

danger boy

why are so many people here lately wanting to use pro amps for home theater use? I just don't get it? is it the power they are after or what? To me, it just seems like one big headache.

Connections are wrong.. things have to be modified to work with this or that pro amp. Call me silly, but i like to keep things simple.

peffy03

it isn't necessarily the power that im after. it just seems that for the money its much easier to get a 150~200wpc pro amp than a hts amp.. if you have any suggestions for certain amps to try id love to hear them.. im always open to other options. To be honest i dont have much exp with seperates, besides in proaudio. ive just always had receivers that were all in one. To be honest i don know what brands of hts amps are good and which ones to stay away from, i have heard many crown peavey and yamaha pro amps that sound great however. ultimately i will eventually get a pro/pre and external amps for the speakers, its just out of the price range right now, i can however swing an amp for now and after the holidays ill look for a deal on a pro/pre

peffy03

i guess ill just look for a pro/pre and add an amp when i can
thanks for your help

tonyb

Why don't you just upgrade the receiver to a 7.1 and solve all your issues?

peffy03

peffy03 wrote: »

I was contemplating today, the possibility of integrating a pro audio amplifier into my hts. My setup consists of an onkyo sr604 that i have biamped on a pair of rti10s my rears are monitor 30s and my sub is a polk psw10 my center, is an older yamaha. what im thinking is that i can get a smaller crown or peavey say 200wpc x2 and use it to drive the bottom halves of my rti10s. I currently have the bottom halves set about 5db higher than the top halves so the bottom halves having an amp that is double the power of my htr should work well. i can then switch the onkyo back to 7.1 and still have the power of my rti10s where they are now. most of these amps have 5 way binding posts as output and accept 1/4 in cables in. 1/4in is easy to convert to rca so it should be easy to hook up.
So my question is do the output levels change as the volume changes on the onkyo?? anyone have any experience with this? I imagine the zone 2 would have adjustable volume, but then i would need to adjust the halves of my speakers independently, and i dont really want to do that. any ideas?

the receiver is 7.1, i have the rti10s biamped so it makes it 5.1, that was the point of the external amplifier on the subwoofers in the rti10s, then they would only take 2 channels of my onkyo instead of 4

peffy03

the crossover is set at 125 hz internally in the rti10s. so the preout for the sub defiantly covers this range and would work for the time being.

heiney9

danger boy wrote: »

why are so many people here lately wanting to use pro amps for home theater use? I just don't get it? is it the power they are after or what? To me, it just seems like one big headache.

Connections are wrong.. things have to be modified to work with this or that pro amp. Call me silly, but i like to keep things simple.

DB, it's the cost. On paper it appears you can get a lot of power cheap in a Pro amp, but what the people don't understand is that pro amps as a general rule don't have the finesse, sound quality and accuracy, etc. a good HT amp has. It's simply a numbers game and a case of "those that don't know, don't know they don't know".

To the OP, the ways you have described hooking things up won't work. Save your money until you can do it right.

H9

tonyb

peffy03 wrote: »

the crossover is set at 125 hz internally in the rti10s. so the preout for the sub defiantly covers this range and would work for the time being.

There's more to it than that,but nevermind,try it and tell us how it works out.

cfrizz

LOL Keiko! I guess so.

Heiney nailed it Al. It's all about being cheap & trying to take a short cut.