Optical Cable

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,644
edited December 2007 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
The Optical Cable is easilly the best subwoofer I've ever owned...

Errr...

I bought one at Walmart (ewww) last night for like 16 bucks... figured why not

I don't have surround speakers or a center, and the 2 ch downmix sounds like dooo dooo

HOWEVER, what a subwoofer demo. I had NO IDEA what I was missing, no wonder I had lackluster bass performance...

I put on Terminator 3 -- set the Outlaw to 0...

I kid you not, I felt literally sick after about 20 minutes of sitting through that movie, after 5 minutes of the movie, I backed it down to -5 on the Outlaw (the subwoofer, not volume) and still - I think my NOSE actually moved at one time...

I take back all claims that the Larger is not any good at movies! hahaha

WOW! lol

To put it in perspective...

One sub weighs 140 pounds, I have 120 pound speakers on top of each sub... and I had to keep moving the speakers back throughout the first 20 minutes we used the Optical cable....

The CD player actually moved as well... hahaha

Just - INSANITY!!!
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited November 2007
    next you have to try Transformers.. it will turn your brain to Jello Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! see my thread about getting a headache after 30 minutes of bass in that movie slamming my brain around in my skull. insane, totally insane bass.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited November 2007
    Congrats on the nose bleed. LOL
    See, subs are very very good for movies.


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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2007
    Honestly -- in my small room...

    Its way to much

    I think the bass waves were big enough to travel to the next block...

    Like when the Crane in T3 gets going, the entire room was engulphed in the sound of that engine and my ears popped...

    It was literally sickening sitting there --- I definitely need a bigger room! haha
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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited November 2007
    So your subs have an input for an Optical Cable? Not sure I'm reading this correct (I'm still waking up, ;) )

    Have you tried Superman Returns? I love the opening when the Red Sun collapses, then it and Krypton explodes. A big effing....BOOM!!!

    This is a chillout weekend for me, so it's play time with the theater. Will give T3 a shot.

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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited November 2007
    danger boy wrote: »
    next you have to try Transformers.. it will turn your brain to Jello Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! see my thread about getting a headache after 30 minutes of bass in that movie slamming my brain around in my skull. insane, totally insane bass.

    Please post a link to the "Headache Thread." I'm down with it, :D

    I have Transformers. SICK!
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited November 2007
    Trey - I'm surprised your mom didn't complain about the earthquake in your room ;)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2007
    XBox 360 uses an optical cable

    My Mom actually came in and told me to turn it down, but it was during a bass passage and her voice sounded garbled..

    After it was over - she repeated

    And I'm being serious :)
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited November 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    XBox 360 uses an optical cable

    My Mom actually came in and told me to turn it down, but it was during a bass passage and her voice sounded garbled..

    After it was over - she repeated

    And I'm being serious :)

    Haha, she could hear it outside your room?!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2007
    Are you being series --

    The bass displayed in this room last night was at the road audible - had to be

    It submerged the entire room with outright, nausiating bass
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited November 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Are you being series --

    The bass displayed in this room last night was at the road audible - had to be

    It submerged the entire room with outright, nausiating bass

    I'm just half awake right now...
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2007
    For some reason, my PC's optical out and the 360's optical out are both louder than my other sources. If I don't want my neighbors to hear me gaming, I have to keep the volume at -25 or lower.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2007
    I couldnt imagine how loud the optical out is with a 5.1+ setup...

    I kid you not, the bass was just... mammoth...

    No easier way to put it - really...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited November 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I couldnt imagine how loud the optical out is with a 5.1+ setup...

    I kid you not, the bass was just... mammoth...

    No easier way to put it - really...

    Then you should come over and check out my setup! Well, when I get a 5.1 DefTech setup, which is soon...
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited November 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    The Optical Cable is easilly the best subwoofer I've ever owned...


    ?????? optical cable subwoofer????

    Errr...
    I bought one at Walmart (ewww) last night for like 16 bucks... figured why not

    At Walmart???????
    I don't have surround speakers or a center, and the 2 ch downmix sounds like dooo dooo

    HOWEVER, what a subwoofer demo. I had NO IDEA what I was missing, no wonder I had lackluster bass performance...

    I put on Terminator 3 -- set the Outlaw to 0...

    I kid you not, I felt literally sick after about 20 minutes of sitting through that movie, after 5 minutes of the movie, I backed it down to -5 on the Outlaw (the subwoofer, not volume) and still - I think my NOSE actually moved at one time...

    I take back all claims that the Larger is not any good at movies! hahaha

    WOW! lol

    To put it in perspective...

    One sub weighs 140 pounds, I have 120 pound speakers on top of each sub... and I had to keep moving the speakers back throughout the first 20 minutes we used the Optical cable....

    The CD player actually moved as well... hahaha

    Just - INSANITY!!!

    Ok, I'm guessing you either bought an optical cable for the HT or your sub has an optical input?


    Im sorry Im lost here.....:p
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2007
    I believe he was a little over-excited when posting this. :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2007
    My preamp takes optical -- never used it before

    Difference was pretty darn good...

    Cant complain a bit
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited November 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    My preamp takes optical -- never used it before

    Difference was pretty darn good...

    Cant complain a bit

    You've always been missing out on the .1 of the 5.1?
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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    edited November 2007
    It appears that he connected his X-Box 360 to his Preamp via an Optical Cable.

    Kind of threw me off there for a bit also.

    Anyway, sounds like good fun for you while Mom is getting pissed off. Rock on! :D


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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2007
    Its odd as hell to sit through any of this --

    Watched 300 at 0 on the Outlaw -

    Leaned back from my seat and it felt like my insides were getting ripped out in some of the battle scenes...

    Its actually sickening to sit in here with a movie playing past -10...
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited November 2007
    So before you were only listening to 2 channel stereo? Missing the intire .1 LFE channel. Congrats on your new break through.:D:D;)
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2007
    Thats pretty accurate!
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited November 2007
    That's how I feel when I go from analog output to coaxial with my XA1 to my HK 635. With multi channel analog, I have no bottom end. When I flip it over to coaxial, I am engulfed in bass. I love it though. I listen to NIN HD-DVD around -15 and it's pretty disgusting. I can't imagine going much louder. I think my bro and I watched Transformers at around -17 the other day. It was awesome, but I almost had to scale it back a couple times. The bass was sick, and I felt terrible for my neighbors.

    Hell, even the move Red Eye had some serious LFE when I watched it. If I turn movies up past -20 on the HK, it's game on.

    Now, if I could just figure out the damn multichannel analogs to get the same effect. Maybe I have a bad IC from the player to the receiver for the sub or something.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited November 2007
    Andy, there is something deffinatly not right with your connections.:p Comparing the sound quality between analog and digital via the XA1 , the analog wins out every time. Especially when playing DD+ or TrueHD. The dynamic range is greater and the sub (LFE) channel rocks.

    For example, I generally listen to movies @ ~20 on the 635, but through analog, I'm @ ~30, with greater dynamics. The only time I switch to digital, is for LOTR 6.1 DTS or Star Wars 5.1-EX. Everything else (especialy HD movies with DD+ and TrueHD, like Transformers and 300) I'm on analog/direct 5.1 . So something is wrong, check the connections/cables, Maybe step them up with some of Ben's cables, and check the settings on the XA1.


    If you need any help..I'm here
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    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited November 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Thats pretty accurate!

    Trey's gonna be having some fun this week!
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited December 2007
    Try the movie "Munich" by Spielberg. There's one scene-SWEET JESUS- I literally came off the couch.
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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