New To Car Audio - want to go with Polk

Drowsy09

OK I need to install a whole system in my car. I have heard and seen nothing but good from Polk (so far) and I plan to go with this brand.

I need two 12"s subs.
Two 5.25" Doors
Two Tweeters
Headunit
And whatever amp/s to power this.

My questions -

If I get 2 MM2124 or MM2124DVC - which amp do I get? Will a Polk C500.1 Monoblock work for these 2 speakers? To much/little power? What is the difference with the DVC and which would work better with that amp if I was to get it?

What will I need to power 2 MOMO door speakers? Is a coaxial better/worse than the component system? (I see the big difference in price) Is component worth the extra?

Will a headunit alone power those doors?

What wiring will I need for the whole system?

MacLeod

Drowsy09 wrote:

If I get 2 MM2124 or MM2124DVC - which amp do I get? Will a Polk C500.1 Monoblock work for these 2 speakers? To much/little power?

The 500.1 would work best with the MM2124 SVC's.

What is the difference with the DVC and which would work better with that amp if I was to get it?

The DVC's (dual voice coil) just have one more voice coil. This is simply to give you more options in wiring and amps. For a single mono amp youll want a 2 ohm mono load which would be a pair of SVC (single voice coil) subs.

What will I need to power 2 MOMO door speakers? Is a coaxial better/worse than the component system? (I see the big difference in price) Is component worth the extra?

The 400.4 would work for all 4 doors.

Will a headunit alone power those doors?

Not well. Head units are horrible power sources.

What wiring will I need for the whole system?

Just get a wiring kit from Streetwires, Stinger or another reputable brand that has at least 4 gauge wire and youll be set.

bigaudiofanatic

Great choice to go with polk ull love them

Drowsy09

So I would need two amp? And I am only going with 2 door speakers - unless you mean 2 doors and 2 tweeters.

And I can buy the wiring in an entire kit?

I am also confused on what wiring to buy. Would this one(the first one) http://www.streetwires.com/products/powerKits/4AWGkit.cfm

be sufficient?

Would it include everything i need?

MacLeod

Yes that would work. Youd still need to buy some RCA's tho. Get the Streetwires Zero Noise 2 series. Theyre the cheapest line theyve got but theyre all you need. Theyre very well made, have no noise and are cheap. Theyre what I use.

You can get the MMC5250's and bi-amp them with the 400.4 Youd run the tweeters off the front channels and the mids off the rear.

So a 500.1 and a 400.4 would be a pretty stout amp package for a set of MMC5250's and a pair of MM2124SVC's.

exalted512

www.knukonceptz.com

Wont find a better deal on quality wire, period.
-Cody

Drowsy09

http://www.streetwires.com/products/powerKits/4AWGkit.cfm
So the first kit and

http://www.streetwires.com/products/interconnects/index.cfm

I dont see the Series 2 i see 6,5,3. Which one would work.

JoshParsons84

What about a full SR setup? What amps and wires then?

1996blackmax

exalted512 wrote: »

www.knukonceptz.com

Wont find a better deal on quality wire, period.
-Cody

Totally agree here. I have areas where 4ga power cables are running side by side with my RCA's and I have zero noise issues. All of my wiring is from these guys.

Drowsy09

What is the difference between the MMC5250 and the MMC525's? I see that they have a difference of $170! Will I still need the 400.4 for the just the 525's? (Money doesn't grow on trees hah)

Also - which size fuse would be best?

black magic

for fuses, its simple math. you just add up the number of fuses on the amps you're using. for example, the c400 has 2 30 amp fuses. so if that was your only amp, youd get a 60amp fuse.

MMC5250 is a component set whereas the 525 is just a coaxial. The main benefit of getting a component set is the external x-over adjustments and tweeter placement. if you're looking for tuning flexibility, and the chance for slightly better sq and higher power handling, get the component set.

I have pair of the mmc525 and for the price, they sound great.

Drowsy09

Well, the amp C500.1 is ordered and on its way along with 2 MM2124's!

Next is the doors, tweeters, and whatever to power them.

OK - I measured the the holes in the doors, and they are exactly 5inches in diameter. I see that Polk has the dB501 5inch door speakers. So I would be getting 2 of these. Also, there are 2 dash 3.5" speakers which need to be replaced. 2 of the db351's. So which amp would I need to power these? The C400.4? Or something smaller, or just run them off the head unit?

I saved a bit of money on the deals so I can spend a little extra on whats left, so I will probably going all out with a head unit, possibly one with a flip up screen. And the speaker wire i will ordering the whole kit out of Streetwires. Good?

Sorry for all the questions but with all this money and time invested I really want to get this right.

1996blackmax

Definately do not use HU power, go with the amp.

Streewires speaker cables are fine, but you can get a better deal with Knukonceptz. I actually still have both in my garage, and the Streetwire speaker cable does not seem as nice.

JoshParsons84

What about if you have to use your head unit until you can afford an amp? Some of us (like me) are building a system 50 dollars at a time.

najahaja

well, if you have to use the HU, then go for it. I think what 1996blackmax meant is that the HU will generally underpower the speakers, and not make them sound nearly as good as they could.

But ye, if you cannot afford an amp, then use the HU. Just don't try and run a 12" off it

1996blackmax

Exactly....If he has the money to do it now, why not do it right the first time. HU power is fine if that is all you have, but as a permanent way of running a nice system it is not the way to go. You do not get alot of power, and the power is not as clean as an outboard amplifier.

Drowsy09

I bought a Mobile Spec 4-gauge High Current Amplifier Install. Kit. A little expensive but the local shop had it in stock and I know the owner. So I will need a C400.4 to power the 2 db501's and the 2 db351's, correct?


Again, thanks for being patient, as I know i am a dummy for this stuff.

JoshParsons84

Don't worry Drowsy09. I am really dumb too. Just let them know you know nothing and are at the complete mercy of them and they're real good with you.

And 1996blackmax I didn't mean running an entire system forever off just the deck, I simply was talking about just doing your stereo little by little - meaning getting your deck first and running your factory speakers off it. Then upgrading your speakers after that. THEN running an amp to them. Or at least that's how I'll be doing it. There'll be no way I'll be able to afford to get a HU, speakers and amp hooked up the same day.

1996blackmax

I started the same way, so I know exactly what you are talking about .

JoshParsons84

Thanks man. I just didn't want you to think I was being a smart ****.

najahaja

the 3.5" will need little power to run them, so yes, the 400.4 would be more than enough to run your 2 sets of speakers IMHO.

I reacon the HU would run those 3.5" 100% too if you had to run something off the HU

Drowsy09

Yes, but then I would have to run the 5"off of something - but.....

They sell kick panel doors speaker setups for my car and since i saved a ton of money on what I bought maybe i could go with a set of door panels and get another set of 5.25". Does more speakers distort the sound?

1996blackmax

JoshParsons84 wrote: »

Thanks man. I just didn't want you to think I was being a smart ****.

No problem, I did not think that at all .

1996blackmax

Drowsy09 wrote: »

Yes, but then I would have to run the 5"off of something - but.....

They sell kick panel doors speaker setups for my car and since i saved a ton of money on what I bought maybe i could go with a set of door panels and get another set of 5.25". Does more speakers distort the sound?

More speakers does not necessarily mean better sound. You will have the same sound arriving at your ears at all different times. Why not just go with only the kick panels and one set of speakers up front?

Drowsy09

Well I definitely need to go with two 5" doors, as the holes were cut out by the previous owner. But like I am saying, with the money left over from what I saved(found good deals on the subs and amp) I was thinking on going with two more 5.25" and another set of tweeters, as I know you don't get the best quality or loudness from just a set of 3.5in's and 5in's.

1996blackmax

I would try to make some 5 1/4" drivers fit in the doors and put the tweeter up higher then. My rear speakers had OEM mounts for 5 1/4" drivers. I ended up making my own mount out of MDF and now have 6 3/4" speakers back there.

Drowsy09

I would like to, but the holes cut out are the biggest that would fit. Its going in a El Camino, and the last person to have this vehicle really butched everything up. I cant really explain, but the way the hole it on the lower door panel is the biggest you can get. i know i will have to make even more modification just the get the 5's in.

sophie

i would find a way to use the momo components instead of the db's you are planing on right now.

cam5860

The DB's are for beginners meaning that if you have never had higher quality speakers you will think they sound excellent. On the other hand if you have heard the momo's and listen to the DB's you will see why everyone recommends the momo's over the DB's. There's really no comparsions between the two. The momo's do everything twice as good as the DB's for just 70 bucks more.