Invisible Speakers?

tecmo04
tecmo04 Posts: 421
edited November 2007 in Speakers
Sitting watching football today ive become restless yet again with my system. Ive been playing with the toe and and distance from my walls but i cant seem to get the "invisible" sound im looking for. When i look at my speakers i dont want to see where the sound is coming from (if that makes sense :rolleyes:) For instance, the vocals and drums are centered, i.e when im looking and listening for where the sound is coming from i cant tell. But when it comes to all the other instruments its pretty easy to identify them coming directly from the speakers.

Anybody have and advise on how to achieve this effect?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,796
    edited November 2007
    Looking at your system...

    I would honestly start with a new source, preamp, and amplifiers ---

    Possibly different cabling as well...

    But one thing to keep in mind, if you don't like the sound of your speakers, all you are doing when you add different electronics is making the sound you don't like sound somewhat more refined --

    But I would start with the electronics if you want to keep the speakers...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • tecmo04
    tecmo04 Posts: 421
    edited November 2007
    I really like the sound. Movies are insane. But when im listing to 2 channel i feel like i can get a little more out of what i have.

    Are the rt1000's known as an "up front" speaker?

    p.s. im looking for a new amp so 100% i agree...
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,796
    edited November 2007
    I've owned so many amps...

    It will make your stuff sound bettr -- but not acheive what you are looking for...

    Source should be your first change --- then the preamp - then the amp...

    Garbage in, garbage out...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited November 2007
    1. I would try pulling them out further in front of your rack.

    2. Listen in the dark, to fine tune placement.
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,007
    edited November 2007
    "Speakers that disappear"?

    Quad electrostatics (vintage or modern).

    Ohm speakers using the Walsh driver (ditto).