New Toy

Ricardo
Ricardo Posts: 10,636
edited October 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
Bel canto Pre2. Breaking in.

Has been discontinued and Underwood Wally has a great deal on them, so based on reviews :( I decided to go for it.

Weights 27 pounds :eek::eek:

So far, I am happy with what I hear. Not too forward, not too warm. I think it's a great match with the rest of the rig.

Has a programmable, universal, touch screen, rechargeable remote; I did not expect this, but it was a great surprise. One remote for CDP and pre.

Will post additional impressions once it breaks in; if you don't believe in electronics breaking in, that's fine :)

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited October 2007
    New toys are good.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited October 2007
    Cool. I was looking at those on the Gon but the budget was not there.
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    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited October 2007
    Nice pre. That a heavy pre. She pretty and a remote, you must be in hog heaven.


    Congrats,
    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited October 2007
    Looks nice, congrats!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited October 2007
    Very nice Ricardo, enjoy!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited October 2007
    Cool. I was looking at those on the Gon but the budget was not there.


    OK...ummm...Darla, I need you stay focused now, m'kay? :D
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited October 2007
    Thanks guys. Let me share what I think so far.

    First of all, how did I get here, since just two weeks ago I was thinking on upgrading some caps on my Audio Research?
    Well, since I needed a pre while the AR was at the shop (thought I'd let someone with experience do it....this is not a "simple" crossover) I bought a cheap B&K Pro 10MC from Texas42. When I hooked this SS pre it was like lifting a veil from the speakers. It was a bit too forward for my taste, but there was something in the tone of the music that I really liked, better than with the AR. How can this be, when I've used tube preamps basically always, and liked them? I don't know; maybe the Thiels go better with SS? Maybe the synergy of the whole system?
    I started researching looking for a very neutral SS pre, and based on reviews I liked the Bel Canto. As magic works, it is being discontinued and was on sale...so I pulled the trigger (Almost got a Musical Fidelity A5....now I know I will be always wondering if it would have been a better choice...).

    So what do I think?

    -There is a spark of "real" on instruments that I never had before. I enjoy listening to those piano notes, just for the note. Drums not only sound, but you can almost feel them vibrate. Vocals have a presence that is almost scary. At the same time, it has absolutely no harshness. Very easy to listen.

    -Quiet. Quiet as quiet can be. Hard to explain. On quiet passages it's like there's a vacuum chamber pulling you in. Strange sensation, but awesome at the same time.

    -Soundstage took a three dimensional level, like more body in the music. Imaging, specially front to back is unreal.


    I guess it is clear that I'm happy (and now that I think of it....that it's going to be tough for me to sell the AR here ;))

    So tubes or SS? Right now, I'll keep my tubes on the CD player and phono pre...but I am pleasantly surprised on how good a SS preamp can be.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited October 2007
    Sounds wicked, congrats man!
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited October 2007
    The remote is awsome. I wish more makers would provide a real remote control system like that. The pre is the heart of your system, and it should have a remote to reflect that, right? Why do so many think remotes are sin?
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited October 2007
    I know; some people almost make you feel bad because you want a pre with a remote, as if it was a bad thing. I think they are just jealous. :rolleyes:
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited October 2007
    That pre is something that is jealous worthy there.
  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,622
    edited October 2007
    Ricardo, does the Bel Canto have a home theater bypass?
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited October 2007
    No, I don't think it does. Underwood advertises it as having one though...maybe you can somehow program one of the inputs to be a by-pass...lots of programmable options.
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,337
    edited October 2007
    Very nice Ricardo! Congrats!

    Don't breathe too much ozone listening to the new pre!!:eek::D;)
    Carl

  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited October 2007
    I was looking at the ad on the `Gon...

    sounds like a very nice unit...


    let us know how she opens up after breakin...
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
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