Subwoofer Clearance

Mr. Mojo
Mr. Mojo Posts: 53
edited October 2007 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
I'm looking at buying a PSW404 10" front facing sub and putting it in a cabinet where it will only have about 3/4 inches of clearance on each side. The front of the cabinet is acoustically transparent cloth.
Does anyone see a problem with this tight fit on the sides?
Thanks.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2007
    Nope.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2007
    It'll sound like a fat man grunting while dropping a long, hard one.
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  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited October 2007
    Remember subs don't always sound best where we would like to place them.
    You have any way try one in that location before buying, if your unsure?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2007
    It's certainly not ideal but he's asking about clearance, not sound.
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  • Mr. Mojo
    Mr. Mojo Posts: 53
    edited October 2007
    dorokusai wrote: »
    It's certainly not ideal but he's asking about clearance, not sound.

    No, actually I'm interested in any limitations of the sound.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2007
    All speakers need room to "speak." If you cram any speaker into a nook, you can expect less than desireable outcomes. For subs, expect them to be quite boomy and localizable. Music Joe has a good point about location, as well.

    Short answer -- don't do it.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2007
    Mr. Mojo wrote: »
    No, actually I'm interested in any limitations of the sound.

    I didn't notice that in the original question but it's not ideal. It will be boomy and heavy on certain frequencies if placed within a cabinet. If you want to do it, get something like the Behringer Feedback Destroyer and calibrate your HT. There are many threads on this issue, just do a search.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2007
    What other speakers are you using? The higher the crossover frequency, the worse it will sound.
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  • Mr. Mojo
    Mr. Mojo Posts: 53
    edited October 2007
    Face wrote: »
    What other speakers are you using? The higher the crossover frequency, the worse it will sound.

    I'm using the RM10 5.1 satellites.
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  • Mr. Mojo
    Mr. Mojo Posts: 53
    edited October 2007
    Music Joe wrote: »
    Remember subs don't always sound best where we would like to place them.
    You have any way try one in that location before buying, if your unsure?

    I'll test it out where I'm buying the cabinet. They have a lof of demo stuff. Thanks for the suggestion.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited October 2007
    i saw the thread title and got excited that perhaps svs was running a sale.:rolleyes:

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  • Mr. Mojo
    Mr. Mojo Posts: 53
    edited October 2007
    Maybe the DSW Pro with the forward firing setup is the way to go instead for placing inside a cabinet?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2007
    The new DSW subwoofer series is much better than the previous models, but you seem to be in the same boat no? You stated that it was to be placed in a cabinet, then it was an option and performance was a factor.

    What are you looking for exactly?
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2007
    Mr. Mojo wrote: »
    I'm using the RM10 5.1 satellites.
    Is the opening of the cabinet facing the seating position? If not, it will definitely sound like crap due to the high crossover frequency.
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  • Mr. Mojo
    Mr. Mojo Posts: 53
    edited October 2007
    Face wrote: »
    Is the opening of the cabinet facing the seating position? If not, it will definitely sound like crap due to the high crossover frequency.

    The opening faces the seating area.
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  • Mr. Mojo
    Mr. Mojo Posts: 53
    edited October 2007
    dorokusai wrote: »
    The new DSW subwoofer series is much better than the previous models, but you seem to be in the same boat no? You stated that it was to be placed in a cabinet, then it was an option and performance was a factor.

    What are you looking for exactly?

    I'm not trying to be confusing.
    The TV console (33" high) would have the TV on top and the sub would be in the middle section facing the seating area. The sub would have about 3/4 inch clearance on each side of the middle portion of the console. I would move the sub to the very front of the console, as close to the seating area as possible.
    The room is fairly small 12' x 15'.
    I brought up the DSW 400 because it has a setting for "in cabinet".
    Maybe I should have explained more of this from the beginning.
    I do appreciate your help.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited October 2007
    Let me reiterate what we're suggesting you to do poetically --

    It doesn't matter what sub you get --
    It's gonna sound like a piece of ****.
    If you wanna be legit --
    Don't put a sub in a cabinet.


    OK, so maybe my rap needs a little work...

    Find another option, dude. Put the sub in a corner where it belongs. There should be at least four of them in your room. Pick one.
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