Nanners...

Lowell_M
Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
I've got some Belkin speaker cable that I want to make a couple cables out of. I've never self-terminated speaker cables, but have always just used the bare wire ends on the binding posts.

Where would I get some good bannana plugs and how are they terminated? (ie. soldered, crimpped, set screw, etc.?)
HT
RTi70 mains
CSi30 center
RTi28 Rears
Velodyne CHT-12
H/K AVR-247
ADCOM GFA-7000
Samsung PN58B860
Playstation 3

2-Channel
Polk Audio LSi15's
Rotel RCD-1072
Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
ADCOM GFA-555
Signal Cable Analog II IC's
Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • brittmer
    brittmer Posts: 11
    edited October 2007
    I use these bannana plugs. They are locking and the wire is held in place by two set screws.
    http://www.speakerrepair.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=BL8&Category_Code=locking
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited October 2007
    a_mattison wrote: »
    I've got some Belkin speaker cable that I want to make a couple cables out of. I've never self-terminated speaker cables, but have always just used the bare wire ends on the binding posts.

    Where would I get some good bannana plugs and how are they terminated? (ie. soldered, crimpped, set screw, etc.?)

    You get the bananna plugs to terminate anyway you want. I use the nanners with 2 set screws, rather than crimp or the PITA solder type.

    I'll get you an ebay link to a guy in Canada that sells a very beefy 2 screw type for $2.50 a piece and he only charged $4 shipping to the US. Lots of 12.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/12-Brand-New-24K-Nakamichi-banana-plugs-or-spades-B-I-N_W0QQitemZ260172380768QQihZ016QQcategoryZ14973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    These are exactly the same nanners someone (janmike, I think) karma'd to me and they are really nice, solid, good looking pieces. I'm going to order another set for a 2nd pair of cables I'm making.

    These are better and cheaper than Monster and they are much nicer than the BFA Audioquest you see everywhere.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited October 2007
    I use the ones that Blue Jeans Cables sells. They tighten down on the bare wire. I have them on all the Belden 12g gray cable I use in my HT.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited October 2007
    brittmer wrote: »
    I use these bannana plugs. They are locking and the wire is held in place by two set screws.
    http://www.speakerrepair.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=BL8&Category_Code=locking

    Nice nanners. Good design.

    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • daboyz
    daboyz Posts: 5,207
    edited October 2007
    Aaron, I may have some extras laying around. I've got some of the blue Jeans and some from Monoprice. I'll check but let me know if interested.

    Dave
  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited October 2007
    dkg999 wrote: »
    I use the ones that Blue Jeans Cables sells. They tighten down on the bare wire. I have them on all the Belden 12g gray cable I use in my HT.

    That's the same wire I'm talking about. I said the wrong brand earlier.
    HT
    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3

    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited October 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    You get the bananna plugs to terminate anyway you want. I use the nanners with 2 set screws, rather than crimp or the PITA solder type.

    I'll get you an ebay link to a guy in Canada that sells a very beefy 2 screw type for $2.50 a piece and he only charged $4 shipping to the US. Lots of 12.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/12-Brand-New-24K-Nakamichi-banana-plugs-or-spades-B-I-N_W0QQitemZ260172380768QQihZ016QQcategoryZ14973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    I use the GLS nanners on my speaker cable and like them alot. I really wish I would have purchased locking (mine are not) but the quality is good and they look very nice. I think the ones I have would hold up to about 8-9ga wire. (they hold the 10ga. I have in there quite nicely)

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,180
    edited October 2007
    You may want to check out what Cardas has to offer.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited October 2007
    daboyz wrote: »
    Aaron, I may have some extras laying around. I've got some of the blue Jeans and some from Monoprice. I'll check but let me know if interested.

    Dave

    Dave, Let me know what you've got. I will probably order a few if you don't have any. I need to order a little cable anyway.
    Aaron
    HT
    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3

    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited October 2007
    treitz3 wrote: »
    You may want to check out what Cardas has to offer.

    Cardas nanners are grade AA **** pain man, believe me. I made one set of cables with them, and swore never again. It takes f'in forever to heat them up, and they are just not solder friendly in my book...The Eichmann Bayonets are a little expensive, but by far the best solder nanners I have ever used....
  • daboyz
    daboyz Posts: 5,207
    edited October 2007
    Two sets of nanners and two sets of spades from BJC and as many of the Monos as you'd care to mess with

    They are the $3.50/set variety. A ton nicer than the monos. Man, the price of wire went up. I just bought a 110 feet a few weeks ago at $.38 now I think it was $.61.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,180
    edited October 2007
    Cardas nanners are grade AA **** pain man, believe me. I made one set of cables with them, and swore never again. It takes f'in forever to heat them up, and they are just not solder friendly in my book...The Eichmann Bayonets are a little expensive, but by far the best solder nanners I have ever used....
    I understand your frustration Bill, but it's not about the tech that puts it together. [try a hotter gun w/ clamps and research on the coating] It's about the end result. Sound.

    Even though cables don't make a difference. :rolleyes:
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited October 2007
    The eichmanns sound better at the end of the day anyway, at least to me.....Believe me, after the first cable I spent a whole lot of time trying to find a way to make it easier....The copper Bayonets sound killer, I think I am going to try a set of the Silver ones next time I get the itch to actually make myself another set of cables.....