White van speakers on DFW CL that look like Polk!

avguytx
avguytx Posts: 1,628
edited October 2007 in Speakers
Hmmm....do these look like some of the Polk towers I've seen? ;) Man, these scammers will bank off of any company to make a dime. What a bunch of crap. Look nice but that's about where it ends.

No affiliation, of course.
Richard? Who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa? Or is it........................Spanky?.................................Sinner.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2007
    I bet they sound awesome.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,606
    edited October 2007
    These guys make them look like famous speakers. They often use
    names that are close to real names of high end speakers.
    DFW CL has also had these guys list those speakers as the real
    thing in their ads. They aren't going away. Those stupid ads flood
    CL and EBAY locally. Short of an angry mod, I don't know how to make them go away.
    All we can do is post warnings and flag ads.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited October 2007
    Yep. It's a shame that they are here to stay. The internet has given them a whole new medium in which to sell their crap.
    Richard? Who's your favorite Little Rascal? Alfalfa? Or is it........................Spanky?.................................Sinner.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2007
    I worked with a guy this past weekend, that bought some of these type of speakers. He was very happy with them so I didn't tell him anything different. In the end it's not about me but I wanted to strangle him.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • polrbehr
    polrbehr Posts: 2,834
    edited October 2007
    Hey, when did Polk decide to sell LSi15s under the "Digital" brand??

    For that price, maybe they skimped on a few things. ;)
    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


    http://audiomilitia.proboards.com/
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited October 2007
    Even though we know they are junk...you have got to give them credit on how good those look....they finally copied them in looks anyways with a great looking clone.
    The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited October 2007
    And they didnt mention 2,000 watts power handling either...they restrained themselves to 400 watts :)

    http://www.ptswoofers.com/towers.htm Nice looking anyways ;)
    The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited October 2007
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I worked with a guy this past weekend, that bought some of these type of speakers. He was very happy with them so I didn't tell him anything different. In the end it's not about me but I wanted to strangle him.


    I went to a couples house to install a custom built pc I had made for them along with setting up a wireless network for them...the wife was SO proud on the ...Shhhh....great deal they had gotten on some 3,000 dollar speakers.

    Man , I was like cool can I see them.....lets just say my experience was the same as yours. It took every ounce of strength I had to keep a straight face and say " Those are very nice " and get out of the room before I started laughing to tears. She was so proud....
    The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited October 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    These guys make them look like famous speakers. They often use
    names that are close to real names of high end speakers.
    DFW CL has also had these guys list those speakers as the real
    thing in their ads. They aren't going away. Those stupid ads flood
    CL and EBAY locally. Short of an angry mod, I don't know how to make them go away.
    All we can do is post warnings and flag ads.

    start breaking some heads. then the whole story will get nation-wide recognition. thus, benefitting the end-consumer.

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
     ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
    XBOX 360    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

    http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.php
    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • hale2thechief
    hale2thechief Posts: 42
    edited October 2007
    Craigslist is inundated every day with these things. If the same "Kirsch" speakers are offered one day for 100.00 and the next day for 1500.00, shouldn't that raise a few red flags?!? Are people really that naive?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2007
    Absolutely.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited October 2007
    A great DIY project with $250 cabinets.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited October 2007
    While I am sure they don't sound that great (compared to LSi15's) I must say, I kind of dig the shorter grill on the front. (minus the rounded around the speaker parts...)

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited October 2007
    Chinese manufacturers can knock off ANY product. And they should be able to - they build the legit equipment as well.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited October 2007
    By the Way...

    "400 Watts Program Each"

    Whats a "Program"? :)

    All Your Base Are Belong To Us!!!!!
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,796
    edited October 2007
    400 watts program is more of a Pro Audio measurements of continuos - etc

    Anyways

    Aside from the fact these speakers suck...

    I'm kind of impressed with the looks and the fact the midbasses use phase plugs

    Ah well ;) - I've seen a few of those speakers, identicle, under about 15 different POS knock off companies...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    Your telling me my $2,000 Dogg Digital and $3,000 Kirsch Prodigy speakers are worthless? But they are digitally ready and DTE certified!
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
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  • hale2thechief
    hale2thechief Posts: 42
    edited October 2007
    Worthless? No. Think of them as visual design elements.


    Or plant stands.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,606
    edited October 2007
    The Chinese do make many of the original products.
    But quality is a hard task for them. They only put as much in as
    the buyer requests(maybe!).
    The scam that follows these speakers pisses me off a lot more that the poor
    product quality. The chinese take orders, and are quite willing to put anything
    on the nametag or box the buyer requests.
    The new wrinkle is some of these guys are just listing them out of their warehouse
    at a modest markup(only 100%). At $250, they are cheap enough
    that many will still buy them knowing they are poorly built. And the seller cuts
    out the middleman. No more tattoo covered ex-cons driving around in white
    cargo vans. Oh, what will become of those poor, misunderstood
    con men? Maybe a support group?
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited October 2007
    BUUUTTTTTTTT there pretty. LOL


    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • mwaarna
    mwaarna Posts: 280
    edited October 2007
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/054/ripoff0054409.htm
    Click here To see My system
    Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited October 2007
    Thanks for the info.

    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited October 2007
    engtaz wrote: »
    BUUUTTTTTTTT there pretty. LOL


    engtaz

    Thats what I'm saying..... Replace the drivers and xover (just becarefull of what type of cable they used:p:p)......and waaaammoooo!!!
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • zx_toth
    zx_toth Posts: 417
    edited October 2007
    LOL I read their 'About us Section' on their website ... Ive provided a few highlights ...

    Our innovative thinking and driver designs soon attracted worldwide interest and the company begain to form solid joint ventured in conjection with major parts suppliers on a world wide basis.

    note: Perhaps they should update their Chinglish and use 'conjunction' instead ...

    PTS Ads in the Audio Magazine for Hi-End products, for a long time, was rated excellent from 1994-1999.

    Comment: Wow your advertisements garnered awards!! What an accomplishment, perhaps they should get out of the speaker scam bussiness and get into marketing/graphic design

    The reputation accumulated by PTS from its 18 years history is getting bigger and better. PTS faced alI aspects of challenges and moved on. PTS appreciates your support and comments. Please discard our competitors' comments that smear on us.

    note: LOL .. why doesnt Polk have a comment about 'Discard our competitors comments that smear us" on their website ?

    The quality still continues to be rated in front by the Audio industry.

    Comment: Huh? In front of what?

    We reward our customers with better prices to increase their profits.

    Comment: Clearly an economist on staff at PTS.

    This catalog is also for the consumer's reference.estigious branded manufacturers in the world.

    Comment: Thats a direct cut and paste from their sentence. Wonder if anyone bothered using a spell check to see what the hell 'estigious' means.

    Anyhow, I read that for you guys so you wouldnt have to waste 2 minutes of your life that you'll never get back ...

    Zsolt
    My Home Theater Rig
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  • OnlyPolk
    OnlyPolk Posts: 137
    edited October 2007
    I had a trim carpenter who came to my house a year ago to bid on some work. We started talking about sound systems. He took a look at my Polks and said 'he'd never heard of them'. He said 'I have high end speakers that are 900 a piece (or something like that)'. When I asked him the name he said 'Digital Research'. I looked all over the net for this at that time and didn't find anything. The other week, when I read about the WV scam, I ran across a site that mentioned this name as one used. Makes me feel good, because eventually that s.o.b ran away with some of my money (advance) and never came back.

    Edit: And what do we have mentioned in the ad above - 'DR' 810 !!!
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited October 2007
    zx_toth wrote: »
    This catalog is also for the consumer's reference.estigious branded manufacturers in the world.
    Zsolt

    Egregious ?
    -Ignorance is strength -
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_van_speakers

    * Audiofile
    * Acoustic Monitor (or Acoustic Studio Monitor)
    * Acoustic Response, Acoustic Image, Acoustic Lab Technology
    * AST (Advanced Sound Technologies)
    * Denmark
    * Dogg Digital, Digital Dogg Audio
    * Dahlton
    * Digital Research
    * DiVinci
    * Dynalab
    * Digital Pro Audio, Pro Audio, Digital Audio, Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems, Digital Audio Skyline Digital Research
    * Cerwin Vega (fakes)
    * Epiphany Audio
    * Elite Audio
    * Genesis Media Labs
    * Grafdale
    * Hauffman
    * JBL (fakes)
    * Kirsch
    * Omni Audio
    * Matrix Audio
    * Proline Acoustics
    * Protecsound
    * Pro Dynamics
    * Paradyme
    * PSD
    * Theater Innovations
    * Theater Research, Theatre Research
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited October 2007
    Scroll down on this link.....about as anti-white van as it gets :)

    http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/711/the-worlds-15-sexiest-speakers-put-your-girlfriend-to-shame
    The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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  • MLZ
    MLZ Posts: 214
    edited October 2007
    And I guess this is different from the great deal one thinks they are getting when buying new, in the box, Polk R50s for under $150 when the web site says the MSRP is $639.95
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,606
    edited October 2007
    MLZ wrote: »
    And I guess this is different from the great deal one thinks they are getting when buying new, in the box, Polk R50s for under $150 when the web site says the MSRP is $639.95


    They were much higher . I wonder if these are being closed out?
    Either way, still a better speaker than most white van ones.
    Gives you an idea what the the cost must be on the ol' theater research
    model.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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