Deoxit

Phasearray
Phasearray Posts: 437
edited November 2007 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
Trying to clean up some old receivers. Was told the scratchy sounds are caused by dirty connections. Am I suppose to use Deoxit or are there any other alternatives.

Also, I spray this stuff on the knobs right and not directly on the circuit board?
Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
Front - Pioneer S-HF21
Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
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  • ka7niq
    ka7niq Posts: 577
    edited October 2007
    Phasearray wrote: »
    Trying to clean up some old receivers. Was told the scratchy sounds are caused by dirty connections. Am I suppose to use Deoxit or are there any other alternatives.

    Also, I spray this stuff on the knobs right and not directly on the circuit board?
    I always used Cramolin, maybe deoxit is better ?
    I found this discussion on Google http://siber-sonic.com/electronics/caig.html
  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    how do I use either product? I don't want to accidently spray it somewhere I'm not suppose to and fry everything.
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    Keiko wrote: »
    I've only used deoxit directly into the pots. I would avoid getting any on the circuit boards.

    Gotcha.
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited October 2007
    I use DeOxit and many times in order to get the best possible job done I've needed to to some disassembly of the unit. Simply pulling the knob off and spraying usually doesn't get it done peoperly. I''m a bit anal so I usually tear things apart to get them cleaned right the first time. Some units you have to do this way others have the scratchy controls more accessable.

    Good luck take your time and do it right the first time and a little bit goes along way. You don't need to soak everything with DeOxit. If they are really gummed up do 2-3 smallr applications verses one big drenching.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited October 2007
    ^^^ my father is the same way but sometimes gets in over his head.
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  • hale2thechief
    hale2thechief Posts: 42
    edited October 2007
    Deoxit is definitely great stuff. I'm not a "full disassembly" type (I broke a switch on an old Kenwood, so I'm more cautious these days), but you will need to get into the pots as best you can. Pulling off the knobs and the faceplate along with any retaining nuts and washers should be enough.

    I also recommend keeping Q-tips and an old T-shirt handy for wiping up any overspray from the circuit boards. Do be careful to pick off any stray cotton bits that might snag on solder points.
  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    thanks all, I think I'll go with the q-tip. I guess some spillage onto the circuit board will be unavoidable. Hope I don't kill the amp.
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2007
    CaiKleen and FaderLube are also handy.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited October 2007
    Phasearray wrote: »
    thanks all, I think I'll go with the q-tip. I guess some spillage onto the circuit board will be unavoidable. Hope I don't kill the amp.

    Pretty hard to kill the amp with the spillage of DeOxit. If you get an excess amount let it dry for a few hours. You'll be fine

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited November 2007
    wow that deoxit did absolutely nothing. .... oh will $10 down the tube. Absolutely soaked a old Sony in it and the left channel that cuts in and out still does the same thing. Soaked an old Realistic in it also and it did not fix the scratchy sound when the bass volume knob is adjusted....

    The circuit board didn't seem to mind being sprayed with deoxit. Was really hoping it would fix the almost completely faded left channel of a Kenwood amp...but no luck.
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited November 2007
    Phasearray wrote: »
    wow that deoxit did absolutely nothing. .... oh will $10 down the tube. Absolutely soaked a old Sony in it and the left channel that cuts in and out still does the same thing. Soaked an old Realistic in it also and it did not fix the scratchy sound when the bass volume knob is adjusted....

    The circuit board didn't seem to mind being sprayed with deoxit. Was really hoping it would fix the almost completely faded left channel of a Kenwood amp...but no luck.

    Obviously the problem lies elsewhere. Or, you used way too much DeOxit and saturated all the controls and now you are 'eff'd. :D:p. It's not a good thing to over use that stuff. If you "absolutely soaked" everything you may have other problems now!

    Why would you spray the circuit board? There are no moving parts on the board. Silly!

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited November 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Obviously the problem lies elsewhere. Or, you used way too much DeOxit and saturated all the controls and now you are 'eff'd. :D:p. It's not a good thing to over use that stuff. If you "absolutely soaked" everything you may have other problems now!

    Why would you spray the circuit board? There are no moving parts on the board. Silly!

    H9

    The inside of the knobs/switch were very hard to get to. I didn't want to take apart the entire thing(I'd probably forget how to piece it back) so I just sprayed it from the crack at the top of the receiver. Of course there's circuit board all over the place and the roughly 40 degrees spray was pretty difficult to aim.

    Im just going to use the rest of the deoxit on my car battery terminal.
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited November 2007
    I just noticed there is a big red "banned" logo next to ka7niq. How/what happned?
    Receiver - Onkyo HT-R340
    Front - Pioneer S-HF21
    Center -Onkyo SKC-340C
    Surround Back - Polk R15 <--Ticket to club polk
    Subwoofer - Onkyo SKW-340
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited November 2007
    Too much banter between him and Forum members that were ruining most of the threads. That's the polite way of putting it.

    engtaz
    engtaz

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited November 2007
    Deoxit ate a wart of my dingus in 45 minutes.

    BDT
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    edited November 2007
    TroyD wrote: »
    Deoxit ate a wart of my dingus in 45 minutes.

    BDT

    Stop dateing toads my man.:)
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited November 2007
    He ain't dating them, but you gotta take what you can when you can....
  • wolverinepac
    wolverinepac Posts: 1
    edited November 2007
    I am new to this sort of thing, so I will simply give whatever the benefit of my experince can bring.

    Pots get dirty, and De-oxit will clean them. That is all it will do, just clean them. Dirty pots often have "dead" spots on em, and of course the "staticy" sound you are all very aqcuainted with I am certain.

    I regulary restore old vintage amps, then sell em, buy some more and etc. I currently have a complete Marantz collection, a wonderful HH Scotty LK-72 tuber, a very rare Pioneer SM83 tube rig, and of course the gratuitous Dynaco ST70 tube amp. Many others, too numerous to mention.

    I have used De-oxit hundreds of times, and also Radio Shacks cleaner that I like believe it or not lol. The latter I use first for the intial cleaning and check the amp. Then again if needed and re-check. When the controls are clean and smooth, I use De-oxit to finish with a final little twitch. Always have I been able to clean dirty controls with perfect results. Now controls that have damage are a different story, and that is rare really.

    If you have other problems such as a power supply in need of cap work, or a sick output trannie, etc, etc, etc, (it can be a lot of things lol), then simply cleaning the controls will not help of course.

    Thanks for letting me join in the converstation and each of you have a wonderful day!
    wolvie
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2007
    welcome to CP !


    Will De-ox make the kobs turn smoother ?
    Kinda like grease`n them up ?

    Or does it just clean ?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,124
    edited November 2007
    In some rare instances, yes. It will help ease the "slide".

    It cleans and protects if you get both Deoxit [cleaner / DN5] and Deoxit gold [protector / GN5]. Unless you turn on the unit with out first making sure the Deoxit has completely dried, I have never run across a case where it damaged anything or altered performance.

    Phasearray, did you turn the knob [get your mind out of the gutter folks] after you sprayed? This will help to loosen any foreign material.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,124
    edited November 2007
    Oh, my manners. Welcome to Club Polk wolverinepac! :D
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~