Hooking up my first polks
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Well that's all well & good, now pick out one of thier matching AMPLIFIERS to go with it. Because without one of those you won't hear anything!:D
Outlaw makes good products. Although most just get the 990 from the get go. But the 970 will work just fine.
Read the reviews of it on the Outlaw Saloon site.bigaudiofanatic wrote: »I think I have done a good amount of searching and i think I have found my pre amp. Has anyone had on of these. Let me know how you liked it.
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/970.htmlMarantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Okay I think I just figured out everything. a pre-amp does all the decoding and than sends the decoded sighnal to the amp. HA I think I found my AMP
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/7125.htmlHT setup
Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
Denon DBP-1610
Monster HTS 1650
Carver A400X :cool:
MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
Kef 104/2
URC MX-780 Remote
Sonos Play 1
Living Room
63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
Polk Surroundbar 3000
Samsung BD-C7900 -
Bigaudiofanatic,
I would check your owners manual for the receiver. I dont think that level Yamaha will properly support use of 4 ohm speakers; but check the manual for sure. If your receiver has pre-outs to link up to a separate power amp, that would be the best route to drive those floorstanding LSIs. You might be able to find a nice used amp out there at a fair price, since power amp technology doesn't change all that much. Good luck.[ -
bigaudiofanatic wrote: »Okay I think I just figured out everything. a pre-amp does all the decoding and than sends the decoded sighnal to the amp. HA I think I found my AMP
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/7125.html
OH boy......this is gonna take some work......too early for me.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Nice choice of a amp. I tend to look at 200 wpc at 8 ohms knowing at 4 ohm it what be greater for 4 ohm speakers.
like: Adcom GFA 555II -200 wpc 8 ohm
325 wpc 4 ohm
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I love how music can brighten up a bad day. -
wrong most AVR's are only rated for 8 ohms and have problem with 4 ohm speakers. get hot and shut down or blow.
engtazengtaz
I love how music can brighten up a bad day. -
Right...so his reciever being rated at 6 ohms wouldn't cause a problem overheating or blowing connected to a 4 ohm speaker? What I'm saying is this may be a problem if he tries to drive those LSi's with that Yamaha AVR. ???
Yes it may be a problem with his AVR. The ohm rating of a speaker is resistance and a certain amount of resistance is always required to maintain control and not overheat.
Think of it as running down a hill. (just came up with this one and no coffee yet, so it may make no sense whatsoever) Your AVR is the person running and the incline of the hill is the resisance or ohm rating of your speaker.
With a slight incline, most people can run down a hill. As the hill gets steeper (ohm rating of the speaker drops) the resistance to running gets less and there is a better and better chance of running out of control, arms pinwheeling, and a crash somewhere on the hill. (out of control = clipping, Arms pinwheeling = heat, crash = damage)
Its early and that is the best I can come up with before coffee.
MichaelMains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
Great sense to me to. Plus I understand more now than ever I have been doing reserch about audio. I do have another question though. If o to say i would still use my Yamaha to decode the audio but then send it to the new amp via rca patch cables i wouldnt get dolby digital would i? I GET A LOT NOW MORE THAN I USE TO. HA ordered a book its called Introductory Guide to High-Performance Audio Systems: Stereo. Here is the link. http://www.amazon.com/Introductory-Guide-High-Performance-Audio-Systems/dp/0978649303/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-6611714-1004817?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193012298&sr=1-2HT setup
Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
Denon DBP-1610
Monster HTS 1650
Carver A400X :cool:
MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
Kef 104/2
URC MX-780 Remote
Sonos Play 1
Living Room
63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
Polk Surroundbar 3000
Samsung BD-C7900 -
If your yamaha had RCA preouts - that is exactly what you would do. (yamaha would switch inputs, control volume, decode DTS and DD, etc.) you would plug the RCA out to your amp and then plug your speakers into your amp (not into your reciever)
That would require that your AVR has pre-outs, but I don't think it does. (they would be RCA outputs in about the same place as your subwoofer.)
MichaelMains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
Yeap I know that now it does not so in a couple of weeks I am going to take the big step and buy my first outlaws.anysugestions an speaker wire i have monster cable. Will that be enough.HT setup
Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
Denon DBP-1610
Monster HTS 1650
Carver A400X :cool:
MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
Kef 104/2
URC MX-780 Remote
Sonos Play 1
Living Room
63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
Polk Surroundbar 3000
Samsung BD-C7900 -
Upgrading speaker wire at this point is kind of putting the cart before the horse. What you have will be fine until the rest of your system gets in place.Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
SWEET can not wait to get this up and running. NOW just planning ahead hum christmas but is my psw10 going to be to small to compete with my LSi15'sHT setup
Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
Denon DBP-1610
Monster HTS 1650
Carver A400X :cool:
MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
Kef 104/2
URC MX-780 Remote
Sonos Play 1
Living Room
63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
Polk Surroundbar 3000
Samsung BD-C7900 -
bigaudiofanatic wrote: »SWEET can not wait to get this up and running. NOW just planning ahead hum christmas but is my psw10 going to be to small to compete with my LSi15's
Think of it this way - Polk Audio makes some of the best bang for the buck speakers available (in my opinion). Until this year (supposedly) their weakest link has been home theater subwoofers. They can turn subwoofers out cheap (cheap enough to give away with a x $ purchase) but compared to the rest of their line - they are not that high in the bang for the buck arena.
You are pairing their flagship speaker (and awesome in the bang for the buck arena) with their cheapest subwoofer (from a company that struggles with subs).
In case you still don't understand - that is the long version of your new speakers rock and you may be better running them without the crap sub you got with them.
Right now in the bang for the buck arena look at subs from SVS, HSU, Epic and Outlaw. (There are others, but off the top of my head, all those are good names to look at)
MichaelMains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
Taking a look now Thanks MichaelHT setup
Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
Denon DBP-1610
Monster HTS 1650
Carver A400X :cool:
MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
Kef 104/2
URC MX-780 Remote
Sonos Play 1
Living Room
63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
Polk Surroundbar 3000
Samsung BD-C7900 -
Here are some links to help your search.
Epik Subwoofers
Outlaw Subs
SVS Subwoofers
HSU Subs
Ed subs are getting good reviews as well...
Really once you get to a certain level (ability to play quality bass at 20 hz or below) - it comes down to how large is your room....Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
At a glance the Outlaw LFM-1 EX is looking good right now but reaserch is the keyHT setup
Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
Denon DBP-1610
Monster HTS 1650
Carver A400X :cool:
MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
Kef 104/2
URC MX-780 Remote
Sonos Play 1
Living Room
63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
Polk Surroundbar 3000
Samsung BD-C7900 -
bigaudiofanatic wrote: »Okay I think I just figured out everything. a pre-amp does all the decoding and than sends the decoded sighnal to the amp. HA I think I found my AMP
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/7125.html
Heres one for ya .....
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1198191754 -
Little to much money for me right nowHT setup
Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
Denon DBP-1610
Monster HTS 1650
Carver A400X :cool:
MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
Kef 104/2
URC MX-780 Remote
Sonos Play 1
Living Room
63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
Polk Surroundbar 3000
Samsung BD-C7900 -
Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
I tried the 970 and liked the sound, but despite a recent firmware update, it had problems with the audio going off every few days or so. I ended up exchanging it for the 990 which sounds even better and does not have that propblem. It is a very stable performer. But, you need to make sure you have room for it because it is big. Outlaw is having a sale on them this month for $799.....a steal for something of this quality. I think they're even less when combined with one of their amps. Anyway, the Outlaw pre's have a beautiful sound stage and outstanding sonic qualities. I noticed a huge differnce in depth, clarity, bass tones, etc when I went from my Yamaha used as a pre to the Outlaw. The Yammie, on certain musical passages, sounded kind of lifeless, flat and tiny by comparison and the bass sounded muddy comared to the Outlaw.B&W 804s mains
B&W HTM4 center
Polk PSW 1000 sub
Outlaw 990 Pre Amp
Anthem MCA 30 Amp
Monitor Radius 180 surrounds
Audiosource Stereo Amp for surrounds
Denon 2910 Universal DVD/SACD Player
Comcast DVR
Pioneer Elite 42" Plasma 940 HD
Harmony Universal Remote
Blue Jeans interconnects and biwires
Itunes Air Express -
BigAudioFantatic,
I'd grab a beefy AVR off Agon and be done with it. Unless you want to make the plunge into Outlaw separates and spend $2K+, and add in more cables, space, etc., I would get a solid AVR like NAD, B&K, etc. off Agon.
I can give you some examples, if you like. Might be an easier and cheaper option for a noob like you.Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850 -
Do you have a website I googled it nothing came up.HT setup
Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
Denon DBP-1610
Monster HTS 1650
Carver A400X :cool:
MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
Kef 104/2
URC MX-780 Remote
Sonos Play 1
Living Room
63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
Polk Surroundbar 3000
Samsung BD-C7900 -
Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
Great ThanksHT setup
Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
Denon DBP-1610
Monster HTS 1650
Carver A400X :cool:
MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
Kef 104/2
URC MX-780 Remote
Sonos Play 1
Living Room
63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
Polk Surroundbar 3000
Samsung BD-C7900