Wanting More Bass out of my RTi8's

ilikesound

Im currently driving these speakers with a Pioneer vsx-80txv receiver and i am happy with the sound when bi-wired, but want more bass response and dont want to have to invest in a preamp if there is an easy solution. what would you recommend?

I currently have them crossed at 80hz, with two subs. i am getting a lot of bass out of my subs, but i want them to integrate a little more seamlessly with the rest of the system. ideas?

Ron Temple

Try cutting them lower 60 or even 40 for a better blend. The 8s aren't world beaters in the bass department, but I didn't think they lacked tightness or punch down that low. Also, you could have a null somewhere in your FR from 20-80hz that's room related causing a perceived disconnect on the blend.

AndyGwis

Just run them full / large and use your subs.

For music, I'll run my Monitor 60's full range (large) and have the sub pumping away as well. Doesn't sound bloated or bad to me, and certainly cures my lust for bass.

danger boy

AndyGwis wrote: »

Just run them full / large and use your subs.

For music, I'll run my Monitor 60's full range (large) and have the sub pumping away as well. Doesn't sound bloated or bad to me, and certainly cures my lust for bass.

+1, run them on large.

ilikesound

ok, good advice here. ill run them large and change the crossover to 40hz but, doesn't that send subbass to them? aka 40 and below? will that damage them if i really blast them? (ALL the time)
thanks again for the great replies

danger boy

ilikesound wrote: »

ok, good advice here. ill run them large and change the crossover to 40hz but, doesn't that send subbass to them? aka 40 and below? will that damage them if i really blast them? (ALL the time)
thanks again for the great replies

any speaker will get fried if you really blast them :mad:

what type of receiver are you using?

ilikesound

it's in my sig.

Ern Dog

ilikesound wrote: »

ok, good advice here. ill run them large and change the crossover to 40hz but, doesn't that send subbass to them? aka 40 and below? will that damage them if i really blast them? (ALL the time)
thanks again for the great replies

Polk specs say that the frequency rage for the 8's are 30hz to 27khz, so you are fine with that. Treat them with some TLC and they won't get damaged. I've always found that my ears start to hurt before my speakers reached the point where they start to distort. I've had Monitor 70's and Rti10's. With that said, I love listening to music loud too.

ilikesound

dangerboy needs a dangerous side!;) speakers love some good old fashioned thrashin' to death metal every now and again.

danger boy

ilikesound wrote: »

dangerboy needs a dangerous side!;) speakers love some good old fashioned thrashin' to death metal every now and again.

I've been known to throw down some metal before

just looking at for you bro... nothing worse then getting one of your tweeters fried..

Willow

How about buying extra power fo your 8s? On my HK 335, my 8s are xover @ 60hz. I'm using 2 monos rated @ 200w and for my sub I have an energy
s10.2 sub. I find no lack in mids. But seeing as though I'm off today, I may just play with the xover even more say 40hz and I may try them as large.

treitz3

The best way that I have found to improve the mid bass punch is to go out and add much more clean power to the speakers. I am currently running between twice the recommended [available/reserve] power to three times the recommended [available/reserve] power to my RTi10's and I am as happy as a clam in mud. Problem solved for me.

I run at performance levels often and I have not blown a speaker to date. All you have to do is watch how loud you go, especially with certain tracks and enjoy.

ilikesound

what would you guys suggest? I have an extra home theater receiver that i have laying around...it's a sony STR model or something. sounds pretty good, but im not sure if that would cut it. can i use that as a preamp? like said before, i don't have the money to throw down on some extra gear right now. maybe i should just save and get a real preamp, but for now would that work?

hamzahsh

I have RT800i's the older version of RTi8's and run them with NAD C272 stereo AMP. Wow huge difference in highs mids and lows:eek: , I don't even use sub for music even though I have Velodyne CHT-15, 15" sub!

Please add the external AMP:( 'cause your speakers are begging for it!:p

Doc99

Yes. Power amp! Sometimes you will achieve better sound running floorstanders full range, and filling in the bottom with a sub, just for the low stuff. At 80HZ crossover, they won't be putting out too much bass, so that is the drawback with crossing over floorstanders. I think for HT, it still is a good idea to use the crossover because of the LFE, so it would be ideal to use a 40 hz - 60hz, but some receivers don't have a variable high pass, so you are stuck with the sub output, and the high pass filter to the mains that was set on that particular receiver. But for music, running them large is fine.

cfrizz

Your Pioneer will function just fine as a preamp. What you need is more power that would be supplied by a separate power amplifier

So until you have the funds to buy one, watch the volume on the reciever so that you don't fry anything.

ilikesound wrote: »

what would you guys suggest? I have an extra home theater receiver that i have laying around...it's a sony STR model or something. sounds pretty good, but im not sure if that would cut it. can i use that as a preamp? like said before, i don't have the money to throw down on some extra gear right now. maybe i should just save and get a real preamp, but for now would that work?

apphd

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Originally Posted by ilikesound
i know this may seem like a superfluous question, but:

i have a ML dynamo and a sony something-or-nother-notlikeitmatters 12'' and i like to listen to music in the daytime when im not busy as background, and i like to watch movies full blast in the evening. my question is, would the sony be better suited for movies than the dynamo because it's a 12'' ported, or would the ml dynamo be ok for both? i do like the tight, articulate sound of the ML, but i think i get more "oomph" out of the sony but it sounds terrible..
i would just get an SVS, but i am short on cash ATM. what do you guys think? should i hook them both up and just turn one of them off depending on source?
thanks!
Sorry to go of subject with this but ilikesound, Do you remember this from last year on another thread?
Are you still running the ML? I am looking at one right now and find it hard to find much user opinions on them. I lean more to music performance but my system is used about 50/50 music/HT. What do you think of the ML if you are still using it? I see you are running two subs is that due to less than acceptable ML performance? Maybe you could respond to this back on your original post so as to let this thread continue on uninterupted.
Thanks

Early B.

If you really want more bass, buy a pair of full range speakers.