Does This System work, Is it compatable with a 1998 Dodge Dakota

BigSubBoomer

Ok so, im clueless and ambitious

Im buying a

Sub Boost Control 10 Band Equalizer

1000W 20ft Amp Lifier/amp Wiring Hookup Kit

2 12" pyramid 2400W (total so, 1200W seperate)Subs

Pyle 2 Chan 1400W Mosfet Car Amp

2 6 1/2" Speakers KFC-1690IE


My question is whether i will need either a cap or an alternator?

and is the amp compatable with both sub and EQ?

and do i even need the EQ?

And do i need to buy anything else not mentioned?

MacLeod

How much are you willing to spend cause frankly bro, those are flea market brands youre talking about. Those amps are more like 500 watts maybe and those subs would catch on fire if you tried to push 1200 watts thru them.

You get what you pay for in electronics and if youre willing to pay a little more, you can have an outsanding system. Give us an idea of a budget and we'll see what we can hook you up with.

Joelsbass

Like Mac said, there's no way in hell you'd see those power ratings from any pyle or pyramid equipment... Even if they got struck by lightning I'd give it a 50/50 of whether or not you'd see that much power If you truly want to be ambitious give us a price range and we'll see what we can suggest

BigSubBoomer

Oh well thank god for two things,
this rating and the fact that they dont let me pick up

anyway my budget for a system that needs to work (amp, subs and maybe converter unless amp has converter) is $160

its limited, i know

MacLeod

$160?!?!

Jesus dude, that aint gonna buy you anything at all unless youre literally browsing thru flea markets.

You should really save up a little more and get some decent stuff. Hell, $500 would be 1000 times better. At least with that you could get some solid entry level gear, but for $160 youre not gonna get anything really.

BigSubBoomer

well my budget was $300 but i blew off 80 on a head unit

im not lookin to compete im just lookin to go boom
not even big boom
just a little boom is ok
but i just want it to be something that no one else in my area has

MacLeod

A system for $160 - its pretty safe to say, youll be the only one with one of those.

Youd probably be better off going down to Walmart or Autozone and seeing what theyve got.

One thing for sure, with a $160 system, you definitely wont need a cap or alternator.

BigSubBoomer

so you cant work any magic for $200?

my only concern is that they will be considerably (a little) louder than manufacturers

MacLeod

Can you build your own box?

BigSubBoomer

yeah that i can do, thats what i was planning on doing, it was just gonna be a simple vacuum not bandpass or anything like that
Please have some good news for me

MacLeod

This is the best deal I can come up with on short notice and in good conscience. Two 12" Clarion subs for $100 shipped.

Run it with this 400 watt Clarion amp for $130 shipped.

Thats $30 over your budget but its the best youre gonna get and still have good quality, brand new in the box and straight from the manufacturer and fully authorized.

BigSubBoomer

hey 30 dollars is not to bad
now i noticed that its mono amp is that gonna be any problem with running and hooking up these amps or is everything gonna be good?
and i noticed that the woofers on the subs are paper/fiberglass hows the durability on that? cuz i know paper durability sucks

and would i need a wiring kit? my guess is yes

and thanks so much by the way

MacLeod

Mono will be hooked up just like any other. Youre just going to wire both subs positive to the amps positive and the subs negative to the amps negative.

Those cones will be fine. They wont be the most durable in the world, but then again theyre only $50. Still they will sound good and be have good output and theyre good quality gear. Much better than some Pyle stuff.

BigSubBoomer

well i cant thank you enough man seriously
i appreciate only one morequestion about the wiring kit
i will need one any suggested cheap things or places?

MacLeod

Go to Walmart. Theyve got decent Scoshe kits dirt cheap.

BigSubBoomer

do you suggest 8 gauge or not even
and comparatively speaking whats the wal mart?

MacLeod

If thats the only amp youre going to run, then 8 gauge will be fine.

Whats Walmart? How do you now know what a Walmart is? WTF do you live?

BigSubBoomer

no no no non ononon on on onn on onono nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
not that **** i need to re read or i sound like an idiot
i mean what the price at wal mart so i can compare with ebay

oh and if i run into some more money say maybe 50 dollars is there a decent pair of speakers i could manage to find?

cuz running factory speakers with a sub may be out of balance

eloplayspolo

http://www.cardomain.com/item/PIOTSA1682R?vq_id=none

I just had a buddy get those and he installed them on a stock infinity head unit and they sound crisp

MacLeod

If you can find a dirt cheap wiring kit on Ebay, grab that. Wire is wire for the most part.

x2 on the speakers Elapso or whatever his name is linked to. They wont be the best sounding speakers in the world but theyll sound better than the stock ones and theyre only $32!

But for $50 + shipping you can have these Clarions so you could keep everything the same brand which I like to do.

BigSubBoomer

wait do these come as a pair for $50 or as a pair for 100? the clarions i mean

eloplayspolo

50 dollar clarions 2 ways over 67 dollar pioneer 4 ways???? are u out of your mind?

MacLeod

4 way speakers are stupid. Why do you need 3 tweeters per speaker???

All it does is screw up the sound and have you paying for 4 extra components you DONT NEED!

How many high end home audio speakes have 3 tweeters per speaker? None.

A "beefy 1.5" midrange?" LMFAO

So yeah, $50 Clarion 2 ways over $60 Pioneer 4 ways.

And yes, those are $50 a pair.

1996blackmax

Nice to see you guys trying to work miracles for him .

Joelsbass

MacLeod wrote: »

4 way speakers are stupid. Why do you need 3 tweeters per speaker???

All it does is screw up the sound and have you paying for 4 extra components you DONT NEED!

Amen to that!

Also for wiring if you can't find all that great of a deal on ebay check out knukonceptz.com great prices and good quality wire

1996blackmax

Knukonceptz has very good products at very reasonable prices.

eloplayspolo

u think that a 2 way sounds better than a 4 way mac?

1996blackmax

More does not alway = better, specially when it comes to speakers that have all this built into one.

eloplayspolo

o i know that, just my experience with pioneer 4 ways, which is owning a pair myself, my bro having a pair and recently my friend having a pair, they drive the music very well including the bass, its clean, the mids are kinda poor, but thats why u throw some 2 ways in the rear, im pretty picky when it comes to electronics, my TVs have to have a really high black level, my computer have to be the best or close to it when i build them, and when my dad gets a surround sound system or i help out friends with car stereos, we only want crisp clean clarity, i found that these little pioneers provide that.

BaggedLancer

yikes, this thread gave me a headache reading and brings sadness.

For $160 stick with the factory stuff for now. Go mow some lawns, pick some weeds, paint a few houses and get yourself $400-$500 to play with thus giving yourself a bit more of a market to play in.

You gotta pay to play, and $160 just isn't gonna pay and you won't be happy with the end result.

MacLeod

2 ways pretty much always sound better than 3 or 4 ways.

Why would you want to split the high frequencies between 3 different drivers?? That makes no sense.

To get the best sound you ideally want as few drivers as possible. A 6.5" midrange can play 40-4500 Hz easily and well. A typical 2" tweeter can play 2000-20,000 Hz easily and well. And by using only 2 drivers you drastically lessen the chance of any cancellation or phasing issues. Splitting the high end frequencies between 3 seperate drivers throws all that out the window.

And that beefy 1.5" midrange is a tweeter. A midrange speaker that wont play below 1000 Hz is NOT a midrange speaker and Ive never seen a 1.5" driver than can without it sounding like a kazoo.

Its a marketing gimick pure and simple.

Like I said before, Ill give you $1000 for any SQ competition car, any reference level or any home audio system or any recording studio monitor system using "super tweeters". You aint gonna find any and there is a reason for it.