a new bada

phipiper10
phipiper10 Posts: 955
edited September 2007 in Electronics
If anyone was considering a tube cd player at a great price - not exactly sure of differences between this and the 22...different opamp??

Bada HD-19
http://www.pacificvalve.us/cdplayers.html
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited September 2007
    There are significant differences in build quality between the 19 and the 22. Of course, I don't know how different they sound.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited September 2007
    Here are the pics to show the differences: 19 on the left and 22 on the right --

    Notice also the additional bracing on the 22...
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Chicomoralessxm
    Chicomoralessxm Posts: 417
    edited September 2007
    IS the Bada tube receiver is any good earlyB? I'm kinda curious about enter the tube realm for the price I'm considering the experiement.
    Chicomorales:)
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited September 2007
    Chicomoralessxm wrote: »
    IS the Bada tube receiver is any good earlyB?

    I dunno. I'm not familiar with it.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Chicomoralessxm
    Chicomoralessxm Posts: 417
    edited September 2007
    Opps, this was the one i was refering to its an integrated amp. http://www.pacificvalve.us/BDC222.html
    Chicomorales:)
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited September 2007
    Chicomoralessxm wrote: »
    Opps, this was the one i was refering to its an integrated amp. http://www.pacificvalve.us/BDC222.html

    This tube int. amp appears to be very well built for the price. Wow. I'll bet this Bada sounds as good, if not better, than the comparable 2-channel receivers from Harman Kardon, Marantz, or Outlaw. I actually like the fact that the Bada doesn't have a tuner.
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    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    Early B. wrote: »
    Here are the pics to show the differences: 19 on the left and 22 on the right --

    Notice also the additional bracing on the 22...


    That's most likely because of the different transport.
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  • Chicomoralessxm
    Chicomoralessxm Posts: 417
    edited September 2007
    Early B. wrote: »
    This tube int. amp appears to be very well built for the price. Wow. I'll bet this Bada sounds as good, if not better, than the comparable 2-channel receivers from Harman Kardon, Marantz, or Outlaw. I actually like the fact that the Bada doesn't have a tuner.

    Really why no tuner will improve sound quality?
    To be honest its really tempting price wise the outlaw i going for 650 now. Not sure of the shipping price i'll have to email them. My only question is i've got absolutely no experience with tubes. It is supposed to be some kind of hybrid how long do those tubes last? What will be the big difference in sound quality over the Outlaw 2150 which i'm almost sure i'll get in november?

    Oh let me add i'm looking at the lsi9's or the Era D5's(demos) might even add a pair of dynaudio's for spring looking to send my neighbour insane lol.
    Chicomorales:)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    A tube hybrid usually means it has a solid state power supply in lieu of a tube regulated power supply. The tube life is a wash since they may last 1 week or outlive you and your children. Tubes typically last thousands of hours.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited September 2007
    Chicomoralessxm wrote: »
    Really why no tuner will improve sound quality?

    It's a personal preference. I don't use a tuner, so I prefer to keep it simple and have fewer electronics in the same box.
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    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited September 2007
    dorokusai wrote: »
    That's most likely because of the different transport.

    No Mark, it's high end 'Bada' bracing. Bada RAWKS!!!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,221
    edited September 2007
    I think "Bada", is short for Badass. No personal experience but most seem to like them. Hybrid tube/SS (in the same chassis) can be a mixed bag sometimes, but nothing like getting your hands on it to see for yourself.

    H9
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited September 2007
    dorokusai wrote: »
    A tube hybrid usually means it has a solid state power supply in lieu of a tube regulated power supply.

    On a preamp, yes. On an integrated, "hybrid" usually denotes that there's a tubed pre- section pushing a SS power section. No way they're getting 95 watts out of four 12AU7's :D
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited September 2007
    seems like a nice integrated for $500. Get a solid piece of equipment from a respected but less than run of the mill manufacturer, get your feet wet into the world of tubes, good power enough to run most speakers, and a nice, shiny chassis to boot.

    Interesting, very interesting.
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  • Chicomoralessxm
    Chicomoralessxm Posts: 417
    edited September 2007
    unc2701 wrote: »
    On a preamp, yes. On an integrated, "hybrid" usually denotes that there's a tubed pre- section pushing a SS power section. No way they're getting 95 watts out of four 12AU7's :D

    Yeah that sound a little over the top to me! Those wpc specs. I'm not sure i'm up for hassle if this test does not work out since i'm living outside the states. But it looks quite tempting to say the least i'll see what else i can dig up on it.
    Chicomorales:)
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited September 2007
    I will give them one thing on appearance, they have a clean look - not the cheesy tube 'windows' enhanced with mirrors and led's.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • Chicomoralessxm
    Chicomoralessxm Posts: 417
    edited September 2007
    lol yes it does look sophisticated and clean. Who know's by Nov i might change my mind. Does it have a pre-out?
    Chicomorales:)
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