Hybrid SACD?

joeparaski
joeparaski Posts: 1,865
edited September 2007 in Music & Movies
Hi guys, I've started shopping at CD Universe for my first SACD's. What exactly does it mean "hybrid SACD"?

So far I picked Sarah Brightmans' "La Luna" which is a SACD and Pink Floyds DSTOM, which is a hybrid SACD....whatever that means. Am I making a mistake with the Pink Floyd? Should I be looking at a "REAL" SACD as opposed to a hybrid? What's the difference?

Joe
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    It means it has a Redbook layer, in addition to the SACD layer(s). This is so everyone can enjoy the release, not just the resolution crazed audiophile.
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited September 2007
    If you're a Brightman fan, you must buy Eden from here: http://www.hifi-cd.com/en/product/item/7884/product_detail.html

    Impossible to find anywhere else (new).

    Also, I highly recommend "Time to Say Goodbye." Her voice, duets with Andrea Bocelli and Jose Cura, and the London Symphony Orchestrae playing in the background makes this a must buy for all Brightman fans.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited September 2007
    SACD started on as single-layer disc. The CD layer and multi-channel surround capability were added later to enhance the format and add compatibility with CD and DVD players. Nowadays, all SACD releases are on hybrid disc.

    Of course, if you're a crazed audiophile on the bleeding edge of insanity, there's an ongoing debate of single-layer SACD vs. hybrid SACD. :D
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2007
    And has anyone done a side-by-side comparison of the two.
    Michael ;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    That would be like an A/B test using the same hamburger from McDonalds.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2007
    wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited September 2007
    fatchowmein wrote: »
    If you're a Brightman fan, you must buy Eden from here: http://www.hifi-cd.com/en/product/item/7884/product_detail.html

    Impossible to find anywhere else (new).

    Also, I highly recommend "Time to Say Goodbye." Her voice, duets with Andrea Bocelli and Jose Cura, and the London Symphony Orchestrae playing in the background makes this a must buy for all Brightman fans.


    Ok, I've just ordered EDEN from that site. Consider this my first SACD purchase.

    Joe
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2007
    dorokusai wrote: »
    That would be like an A/B test using the same hamburger from McDonalds.

    Seeing that I am not 100% familiar with the format that is used in both, I asked the question. Thanks for the mature, professional response.
    Michael ;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    It was a joke Janmike, relax, take a deep Canadien breath.

    Let me formally offer my immature, unprofessional response. I haven't heard any difference between a SACD single layer vs SACD Hybrid but I try to view this hobby from reality. I'm sure someone has heard something, somewhere and its really the last thing I care about overall.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2007
    OK I just took one, CANADIAN that is.
    Michael ;)
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited September 2007
    joeparaski wrote: »
    Ok, I've just ordered EDEN from that site. Consider this my first SACD purchase.

    Joe

    Congrats, Joe. One thing about SACD, once they're gone they're gone. I'm still hunting for The Peter Malick Group's "New York City" on SACD featuring a little known singer back then - Norah Jones. I'll have to look on Ebay.china to find it now. On that album, Jone's sings more blues than jazz.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    janmike wrote: »
    OK I just took one, CANADIAN that is.

    Canadians make me feel funny in my tummy.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2007
    I know, we hear that all the time especially from your southern women. I hope that old flame from Savannah is no where in sight when I hit Georgia in 3weeks. That could be trouble.
    Michael ;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    You're in for a world of fun but did Ted mention the new Polkie, Polkfest initiation? It involves animals and Ted....take that any way you wish. He's a very large man and all I can say is grit your teeth.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2007
    No problem, these guys are in our back yard so we have experience with the big, bad one.
    Michael ;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    :D I might see a rabbit or chipmunk every now and then.....
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,823
    edited September 2007
    ....or some little bug eyed, ankle biting Tasmanian devil.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited September 2007
    janmike wrote: »
    No problem, these guys are in our back yard so we have experience with the big, bad one.

    those buffalo's are some good eatin' :eek: :confused::p:D
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2007
    The meat is soooooo lean and soooooo good. Very difficult to cook, but when done right, YUM.
    Michael ;)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited September 2007
    Give me a well marbled hunk of meat with fat any day!
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited September 2007
    fatchowmein wrote: »
    I'm still hunting for The Peter Malick Group's "New York City" on SACD featuring a little known singer back then - Norah Jones. I'll have to look on Ebay.china to find it now. On that album, Jone's sings more blues than jazz.

    Fatchowmein, if you find a source for this SACD, please let me know.....I'll take 5 copies of this SACD!!
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited September 2007
    janmike wrote: »
    And has anyone done a side-by-side comparison of the two.

    First of all, there're only a handful of SACD that were offered in both single-layer and hybrid formats*. I have actually A/B an US single-layer SACD of Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" vs. the European hybrid version (which contains a HDCD-encoded CD layer) that I purchased in Hong Kong. I "think" I heard a very slight advantage for the single-layer SACD, however I really don't think I can't reliably identify which is which. The difference is so very tiny....if it existed at all. Either case, "Time Out" is an awesome sounding SACD.

    * SACDs of the Police and Peter Gabriel are hybrid SACD in contrast to the single-layer versions we get in the States. A number of Sony SACD titles, originally on single-layer SACD, were reissued on hybrid SACD in Europe. The only Sony SACD title in the US that received the reissue treatment on hybrid SACD was the soundtrack to "Titanic".
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    ....or some little bug eyed, ankle biting Tasmanian devil.


    Aint that the truth lol :D
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2007
    dorokusai wrote: »
    You're in for a world of fun but did Ted mention the new Polkie, Polkfest initiation? It involves animals and Ted....take that any way you wish. He's a very large man and all I can say is grit your teeth.


    As we say in the Deep South, son it just ain't your day...............zip.........

    y'all come back now you hear.........
    and Thank youooooooo

    naw its really not that bad.;) :D

    RT1
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2007
    Am I ever glad I purchased flight cancellation insurance.
    Michael ;)
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited September 2007
    janmike wrote: »
    No problem, these guys are in our back yard so we have experience with the big, bad one.

    Hell...we got possums and raccoons that big down here in the south...

    Now thems is good eatin'.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2007
    shhhh........ShackDaddy I was going to tell them those were chickens they were munching on............

    Of course while listening to high rez music and stomping the Cotton Eyed Joe out.

    RT1
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited September 2007
    :eek: Ted you know I love you. BUT I think I'm very happy I'm not making the trip down to PF2007!:eek: :eek:
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    shhhh........ShackDaddy I was going to tell them those were chickens they were munching on............

    Of course while listening to high rez music and stomping the Cotton Eyed Joe out.

    RT1
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2007
    There is still plenty of time to change your mind my little dear. For you its Georgia's famous White Shrimp from the Boat of Captain Fred Todd direct to the dinner table at RT1's, bring your brother and sis-in-law. Your never going to taste fresher.

    And of course High Rez music with yep at least 200w per channel.........yee haw.

    RT1
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited September 2007
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    There is still plenty of time to change your mind my little dear. For you its Georgia's famous White Shrimp from the Boat of Captain Fred Todd direct to the dinner table at RT1's, bring your brother and sis-in-law. Your never going to taste fresher.

    And of course High Rez music with yep at least 200w per channel.........yee haw.

    RT1

    Hmmm it sounds like somebody's hitting the sauce tonight!!!:D :D:D
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