Is it possible to fix dented dust caps?

Phasearray
Phasearray Posts: 437
edited February 2013 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
Suppose some idiot(such as I) got a screw driver too close to the dust cap and the resulting magntic field pulls the screw driver into the dust cap causing the entire thing to dent inwards. Is there a way to pull it back out?
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  • tecmo04
    tecmo04 Posts: 421
    edited September 2007
    i've heard you can use a needle to make a small hole in the middle of it. Then take a paper clip type object to pull it out. Never done it myself though...
  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited September 2007
    Use the cardboard on an empty paper towel role and put it on top of the dome, then suck the air out with your mouth. It worked like a charm for me.
  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited September 2007
    Ern Dog wrote: »
    Use the cardboard on an empty paper towel role and put it on top of the dome, then suck the air out with your mouth. It worked like a charm for me.

    omg genius. Imma try this
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited September 2007
    Wrap some tape around your fingers and pull out the dent.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited September 2007
    The 6503 dust caps don't work with tape but the mid's in my 3.1's dust caps do work with their dust caps. 6503 are more cloth like then the mids in the 3.1's are more plastic like.
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited September 2007
    tecmo04 wrote: »
    i've heard you can use a needle to make a small hole in the middle of it. Then take a paper clip type object to pull it out. Never done it myself though...


    I've done this and it worked like a charm. Needle-method should reserved for very stubborn dents. I'd sure like to see a jpg image of a girl using the paper-towel-roll vacuum method. Tape method may or may not work. Definitely worth a try though.
  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited September 2007
    a needle hole won't affect the performance? anything with "poke hole" and "speaker" in the same sentence scares me. . . probably just flashbacks to newbie threads about adding ports to speakers and such.
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited September 2007
    Phasearray-
    So did you resolve the problem or what?
  • dipiazza
    dipiazza Posts: 363
    edited September 2007
    Real easy... Use a vaccuum hose, make sure you partially cover the end of the hose with your fingers... you dont want to rip the dust cap off. Ive done it a few times with no problems. I definitely wouldnt poke a hole with a pin.
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited October 2007
    I second the vacuum hose, super easy and quick.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,792
    edited October 2007
    markmarc wrote: »
    I second the vacuum hose, super easy and quick.

    Ditto..
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited October 2007
    I've gotten the vacuum method to work, and also blue tack on the tip of a pen (sort like the duct tape/ finger solution). Never tried the needle point...
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    Ern Dog wrote: »
    Phasearray-
    So did you resolve the problem or what?

    nope...Guess the needle is next
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  • Phasearray
    Phasearray Posts: 437
    edited October 2007
    dipiazza wrote: »
    Real easy... Use a vaccuum hose, make sure you partially cover the end of the hose with your fingers... you dont want to rip the dust cap off. Ive done it a few times with no problems. I definitely wouldnt poke a hole with a pin.

    dang actually this method fixed the big ding. The smaller dent caused by some idiot(most likely me) who used glue(super glue, bad idea) has made the dent probably so hard it will never pop back into place.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    edited October 2007
    I have a tweeter dent that refuses to go away. The vacuum method was the only one that worked, but when I take the hose away, the dent takes about 60 seconds to come back. Darn! Don't the dome covers just twist off on some models? Is it possible to twist them off and then gently push the dome out from behind? The tweeter itself is still working fine.
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited November 2007
    I have a dented 6511. I tried the tape method with no success. I will try the vacuum cleaner but the cap looks like it is cloth and air will pull through it.
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    edited November 2007
    I have a dented 6511. I tried the tape method with no success. I will try the vacuum cleaner but the cap looks like it is cloth and air will pull through it.
    Could you post a pic of that tweeter? If you have removed it, could you also post a pic of the back?
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited November 2007
    The needle works great for stubborn/ridged dust caps. I also notice no sound difference from the tiny pin hole, but I'm sure someone will debate me on that...
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited November 2007
    It is actually a mid bass driver. I pulled it out but I ended up with a very slight tear in the dust cap.

    Scott
    Kex wrote: »
    Could you post a pic of that tweeter? If you have removed it, could you also post a pic of the back?
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2007
    If it's a vented dust cap(some air can pass through), I don't see putting a tiny hole in it being a issue besides aesthetics. I can see a problem only if it's a sealed cap, and even then, it may not be noticeable.
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  • avguytx
    avguytx Posts: 1,628
    edited November 2007
    I used to use the paper clip trick on car audio subs back before everyone went to inverted/molded in dust caps. I figured if they were stupid enough to have them in the back of their car with crap rolling around to dent it, then a little whole in it wouldn't matter. It was a car sub...who cared. lol

    Of course, you can always put a tiny dab of glue on the pin hole and it will seal it back up.
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  • sagasa
    sagasa Posts: 127
    edited January 2008
    Use a duck tape it works for me.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited January 2008
    GAH! The word is DUCT not duck! It's tape that is used to secure two piece of DUCTing together. Usually the DUCTing is made or aluminum or galvanized steel hence the silver color of the DUCT tape so as to be aesthetically pleasing and maybe mask the presence of your handiwork.

    The tape, while good for many purposes, does surprisingly poorly at securing two water fowl together.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,200
    edited January 2008
    Jstas wrote: »
    GAH! The word is DUCT not duck! It's tape that is used to secure two piece of DUCTing together. Usually the DUCTing is made or aluminum or galvanized steel hence the silver color of the DUCT tape so as to be aesthetically pleasing and maybe mask the presence of your handiwork.

    The tape, while good for many purposes, does surprisingly poorly at securing two water fowl together.
    That explains it ... I got very wet that day ... Thank you for clearing things up for me (I won't try it again).
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2008
    I have duck tape, when I ask my son to get me the grey tape I get it thrown at me. So I named it duck tape.
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  • ShinAce
    ShinAce Posts: 1,194
    edited January 2008
  • sagasa
    sagasa Posts: 127
    edited January 2008
    Sorry guys I misspelled it, but it really works.
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  • wizzy
    wizzy Posts: 867
    edited February 2008
    Jstas wrote: »
    GAH! The word is DUCT not duck!

    Actually, Duck Tape is a real product.
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited February 2008
    wizzy wrote: »
    Actually, Duck Tape is a real product.

    Yeah and it's a BRAND name not the actual name of the tape. Anything you see from Duck Tape has a registered trademark next to the "Duck".
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  • setzer808
    setzer808 Posts: 173
    edited July 2010
    +1 got the paper tube idea, fixed the dented cone on a project speaker i'm working on the first shot!
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