FS: Parasound P/HP 850 Preamp

AsSiMiLaTeD
AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
edited September 2007 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
I'm selling my first born. This is the first piece of audio equipment that I ever owned that I considered to be 'high end'. Truth be told, it's probably not a high-end player to most people, but it was my first step into separates.

This is a very sweet sounding preamp. You can do a search here or elsewhere online and find all the positive reviews. Alot of people have said that they regret selling theirs, and I'll likely be one of those people a few months from now.

I've moved on though, and this hasn't seen any time in the main rig in a couple months, it's all tubes from here on out for me.

So it's time to pass this on to the next in line. I bought this on here, and as such will keep it in the family.

I'd like to get $130 shipped (CONUS). I don't have many good pics, I'll post one that I have here.

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Comments

  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited September 2007
    I know this is not "looked upon" too well,but this is an awesome pre for the money...My first venture into true 2-channel was with the same pre.

    You will not find anything in this price range that will touch the 850...period.
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited September 2007
    I rolled with this pre for a long time in the 2 channel rig. great pre on the cheap. any home theater guys wanting to start a seperate budget 2 channel, you wanna look at this (or buy it)
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited September 2007
    Thanks for the kind words guys. I know that whoever buys this thing will be quite pleased.
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    I will take it.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited September 2007
    Good deal, I'll send a PM your way to work out the details
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    Good deal, I'll send a PM your way to work out the details

    Excellent. Thanks :)
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    This thing sounds pretty damn good I must say. I think you might regret letting this one get away from you.:)
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited September 2007
    No doubt I'll regret it, glad you are enjoying it though...
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited September 2007
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    No doubt I'll regret it, glad you are enjoying it though...

    I sold mine also to scrap up some funds for other gear,and yes I regret it also:D
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    Mwah ha ha ha!!!! Well I have one now!!!!!!!!


    I can't believe it is so inexpensive. It sounds almost as good as my Anthem D2 did on 2 channel.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited September 2007
    Mwah ha ha ha!!!! Well I have one now!!!!!!!!


    I can't believe it is so inexpensive. It sounds almost as good as my Anthem D2 did on 2 channel.

    Like I said,you would be hard pressed to find anything that can touch this pre for that kinda money...Enjoy your new toy!!!
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    Ah...listenin' to some Muddy Waters Live. This is a really nice little pre. Very happy.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited September 2007
    That almost looks like the one I sold on the FM a while back! I don't remember who I sold it to! I had 3 of the 850's pass through my system and they are a fantastic pre for the money. Enjoy it!
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited September 2007
    The PH/P-850 is an excellent preamp, but gets little respect--I don't know why. I guess it's too good of a value to be "real" hi-fi....:rolleyes:
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    steveinaz wrote: »
    The PH/P-850 is an excellent preamp, but gets little respect--I don't know why.

    Probably because it does not cost an arm or a leg. I am sure it would piss of a lot of people to hear it that spent tons on theirs. I took it yesterday to my dealer (audio not drug!:D ) and he said 'keep it' after listening to it. He could have tried to sell me something else but his opinion was that it would take me really far and did not see the need to upgrade it.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited September 2007
    It's a solid bang for the buck mid-fi product. My P/sp1000 works well in
    stereo bypass mode. And it has a remote! Big bucks to do better.
    Believe me, I've been looking.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited September 2007
    That's it guy...rub it in :-)
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited September 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    It's a solid bang for the buck mid-fi product. My P/sp1000 works well in
    stereo bypass mode. And it has a remote! Big bucks to do better.
    Believe me, I've been looking.

    So what exactly, keeps it from being a "hi-fi" product?
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited September 2007
    steveinaz wrote: »
    So what exactly, keeps it from being a "hi-fi" product?

    Not much. The next rung up is a lot higher up the price scale for a somewhat better performance. These seem to reach into the realm without quite getting there. Better than my Nad, and better than the Rotel I had.
    I know where you're going with this, but I'll just blunder into your trap.
    Price????
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2007
    There is a good amount of this type of gear that flies under the radar. My Nakamichi CA-5 pre is in the same boat. Can pick them up all day in the $150-250 range and even a little less if you are diligent. They are a KILLER pre.

    The key is the search for this type of gear.

    I comes down to that last 10-15% of audio nirvana. It costs about 10-20 times more for a product that gets you 100% there.

    The extra 10-15% is the killer.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited September 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    There is a good amount of this type of gear that flies under the radar. My Nakamichi CA-5 pre is in the same boat. Can pick them up all day in the $150-250 range and even a little less if you are diligent. They are a KILLER pre.

    The key is the search for this type of gear.

    I comes down to that last 10-15% of audio nirvana. It costs about 10-20 times more for a product that gets you 100% there.

    The extra 10-15% is the killer.

    H9

    Much of what makes it Hifi is look and feel, as well as sound.
    You'll get no disagreement from me that this a very nice unit.
    Not quite there. Some of the newer stuff from Parasound definately
    moves up to HiFi.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited September 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    Much of what makes it Hifi is look and feel, as well as sound.
    You'll get no disagreement from me that this a very nice unit.
    Not quite there. Some of the newer stuff from Parasound definately
    moves up to HiFi.

    can't say that I care too much what my Nak CA-5 looks like when I compare it's sweet sound to my much fancier with a lit up knob H/K receiver.


    edit... Sorry to crap up the thread. Just realized this was a for sale thread for a Parasound Pre.....
    HT
    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3

    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited September 2007
    Well, let me say this from experience; I replaced my PH/P-850 ($249) a few years ago with a Musical Fidelity A3CR (Retail $1520.00). The differences? VERY subtle. Mostly a deeper/wider soundstage and bit smoother treble. Definitely not a big difference---not even a modest difference, and definitely not a 1271 dollar difference. Of course the MF weighs about 15 times more than the Parasound, definitely better build. I just don't feel that those elements alone, dismiss the PHP to the "mid-fi" category.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited September 2007
    a_mattison wrote: »
    can't say that I care too much what my Nak CA-5 looks like when I compare it's sweet sound to my much fancier with a lit up knob H/K receiver.


    edit... Sorry to crap up the thread. Just realized this was a for sale thread for a Parasound Pre.....


    He sold it already. Darla snagged it.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2007
    dkg999 wrote: »
    That almost looks like the one I sold on the FM a while back! I don't remember who I sold it to! I had 3 of the 850's pass through my system and they are a fantastic pre for the money. Enjoy it!



    maybe it`s the one I have....great pre..!

    I have a HCA-1000, and the DQ-1600 reciever working with it in the garage rig
    all Parasound in the garage !

    along with some Rti 38i`s

    I have had many pre amps, and this one stays

    unless I sell the garage rig !!!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    steveinaz wrote: »
    He sold it already. Darla snagged it.

    Muahhhhahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!:D :D:D
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited September 2007
    darla,
    what svs`s are those in your HT rig ?

    They sure are purdy !
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2007
    PB12 Plus/2 on the left and PB12 Ultra/2 on the right.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.