I really dispise HDMI sometimes

disneyjoe7

So Iomic, do you agree with that HDMI as more bandwidth over an Optical or Coax digital audio input?

MikeC78

Absolutely speechless.:(

Ron-P

God I hope not I'm tied of something for 3 years and then we all switch. I ask who wins Ron who?

ummmm, what?

disneyjoe7

Ron, 2 years from now they came out with HDMIx with a larger improved connection with a clip ring for securing cable. Which is not compatible with HDMI so anyone with a new TV or new AVR is Fk'd


Ok I just tried of it. Getting old

Ron-P

Got'cha.

The component is a fine, solid connection that works without flaw, so whom ever came up with this HDMI connection should be $(@*^#@*(^!!! I hate it. I had to use 3 velcro straps to get a solid connection for the HDMI connection to my HD-A1 otherwise heavy bass scenes would cause picture drop.

Rivrrat

What I should've realized right away, was it was a handshake (timing) issue. I work with telcom digital signal equipment everyday, and from my experience it's almost never a hardware or cabling issue, but in my own family room, I still assumed the worst. What I actually thought was the Oppo, at 9 mos old, had taken a big dump.

As far as why I'm going through the AVR with hdmi, when I put it all together, I found out doing it that way was the easiest way at the time to make sure I had on screen commands with the cables I had on hand. Since it hadn't caused me any problems, I figured why change it?

Four concert discs later, no problems.

rtart

I had LOTS of HDMI issues with my HD-A1 to a Vizio P50 plasma. Firmware update on the HD-A1 fixed it. I read somewhere that only a small percentage of systems installed by high-end installers actually use the HDMI connections available. most use component, because it always works.

disneyjoe7

rtart wrote: »

I had LOTS of HDMI issues with my HD-A1 to a Vizio P50 plasma. Firmware update on the HD-A1 fixed it. I read somewhere that only a small percentage of systems installed by high-end installers actually use the HDMI connections available. most use component, because it always works.

I'm begining that high-end installers are using component also, but how are they getting HD video output from todays DVD players. If you're not using HDMI you're not getting 720p / 1080i video from component input. Not that component can't do that the player what give it to you.

MikeC78

Component can pass 720p / 1080i just fine. You just can't upconvert SD DVD's via component(HDCP). I think the only player that will let you do that is the Oppo, but you'll need to do a special "FW" upgrade.

rtart

I have a CRT projector, that will scan way past 1080p, but it's analog. HDMI won't work, because of HDCP. I use component outputs on my HD DVD player, Blu Ray player and HD Tivo to feed a DVDO VP30 scaler. The VP30 will transcode component to RGB so I can feed my PJ. Works great! I have a Panny RP82 modded with an SDI output that feeds the scaler's SDI input for SD DVDs.

You are correct, however, that the HD DVD and BD players that will upconvert SD discs will only pass the signal through HDMI.

In addition, the HD or BD discs have to be "allowed' to pass HD signal via component by the studio releasing the disc. The studios have all agreed to "allow" analog HD signals from their titles until at least 2010.

Notice I put "allowed" in quotes. It REALLY pisses me off that the lawyers have insisted on copy protection schemes that have caused so many technical problems. DHCP has made HDMI's implementation a nightmare. I'm OK with studios protecting their intellectual property rights. Just come up with a system that 1) works, and 2) allows me to use the gear I already own until I'm ready to scrap it.

shadowofnight

I met the man who co-invented the HDMI interface ( http://www.radiient.com/The-Team ) Jano Banks, when I had to take my Radiient switcher in for a firmware upgrade to handshake with my new Plasma . They had to introduce a 10 millisecond delay to the switcher because the Panasonic Plasma needed that extra time for the HDCP handshake ( Worst offender was my HTPC...It has an HDMI output video card ) . After that , the switcher worked flawlessly with my Plasma and every HDMI component

That handshaking delay is supposed to be standard to the interface of the product...but a lot of manufacturers are deviating from it and causing numerous problems ( My Panny Plasma included ) Luckily my switcher was high end enough ( I LOVE it...havent had a single HDMI issue since its installation after the adjustment...even my H20 sat box would not handshake with the Plasma correctly once in a great while ) to incorporate an RS232 port for firmware updates. So the interface is solid ( Even though I told him the physical plug was a weak piece of junk and he should take some lashes with an HDMI cable for it ) ...it is more manufacturers not sticking with standards that is the main cause of the problem.