Xbox vs. 360 Comparison

Shizelbs
Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
edited September 2007 in Video Games
I saw a pic of one of the multiplayer maps from Halo just a few minutes ago. To me, anyways, its amazing how much progress graphically has been made from one console to the next.

The Halo map looks downright lousy.

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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2007
    Which picture goes with what console? :D
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited August 2007
    lets see the top is the xbox 360 and the bottom is the regular xbox ....
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2007
    I forgot to use my /sarcasm. ;)

    The pictures should be reversed though.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited August 2007
    IMO, thats a bad representation of XBOX. Granted I agree, its not quit the graphics of 360 but my Halo doesnt look at all like that 64bit pic you have there. I play Halo all the time on my "regular" xbox, and I enjoy the graphics very much....oh and the music..
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  • avelanchefan
    avelanchefan Posts: 2,401
    edited August 2007
    Are you sure that the map of Halo is not one that is made for the PC? Because quite honestly I do not think I have ever seen that one before on Halo or Halo 2 for the xbox.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited August 2007
    avelanchefan wrote: »
    Are you sure that the map of Halo is not one that is made for the PC? Because quite honestly I do not think I have ever seen that one before on Halo or Halo 2 for the xbox.

    +1 , And not that low grade of graphics..

    Come to think of it...that does look like a PC screen shot.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited August 2007
    I've played that map countless times on the XBox.
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  • mutelight
    mutelight Posts: 1,054
    edited August 2007
    Hang Em High, one of my favorite levels.

    Also while there is a huge improvement over the original Xbox it isn't really fair to compare a launch title like Halo.
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  • avelanchefan
    avelanchefan Posts: 2,401
    edited August 2007
    So I am assuming this is a Halo map not a Halo 2 map.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited August 2007
    mutelight wrote: »
    Hang Em High, one of my favorite levels.

    Also while there is a huge improvement over the original Xbox it isn't really fair to compare a launch title like Halo.

    Halo had been in development for years before its release. They had plenty of time to do what they needed to for this game to be ready. Plus, I am certain that Bungie got to work very closely with the Xbox team to know what hardware they should be programming for.

    Anyways, here is a shot of Halo 2.

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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited August 2007
    I would be curious to see some side by side shots of the same scenes. Are there games that are released on both consoles? If so, it would be interesting to see side by side comparison
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    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited August 2007
    I don't think there are any games released for each platform. I think the Xbox pretty much got abandoned when the 360 came out.
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    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited August 2007
    Though I agree the graphics look great for halo 3, this comparison is not surprising and just not fair. Halo came out in 2001, halo 3 in 2007(hopefully). Not only are they on two different systems but there are 6 years between them. This is like comparing zelda link to the past(SNES) to ocarina of time on the n64....

    Now I thought the difference between halo 1 and 2 was surprising. Even though I thought halo was a better game in general, the graphics in halo 2 was IMO a big leap from halo.
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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited August 2007
    Shizelbs wrote: »
    I don't think there are any games released for each platform. I think the Xbox pretty much got abandoned when the 360 came out.

    There aren't all that many new original XBox games being released now, but there are a lot of games that were released for both XBox and the 360. A quick scan of GameSpot and I found Ratatouille and Eragon as the most recent two, but i'm sure there's many more.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited August 2007
    I think that's the whole point of his thread - to show how far we have progressed. It's not like he's saying the original XBOX sucks because the graphics on 360 look better.

    It's just an illustration of how far we've come in the last few years.
    tommyboy wrote: »
    Though I agree the graphics look great for halo 3, this comparison is not surprising and just not fair. Halo came out in 2001, halo 3 in 2007(hopefully). Not only are they on two different systems but there are 6 years between them. This is like comparing zelda link to the past(SNES) to ocarina of time on the n64....

    Now I thought the difference between halo 1 and 2 was surprising. Even though I thought halo was a better game in general, the graphics in halo 2 was IMO a big leap from halo.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited August 2007
    Polkmaniac wrote: »
    I think that's the whole point of his thread - to show how far we have progressed. It's not like he's saying the original XBOX sucks because the graphics on 360 look better.

    It's just an illustration of how far we've come in the last few years.

    Yep. My comparisons are fair. I'm just pointing out just how much change can be had in so little time. I think its pretty interesting.
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  • PADZZ
    PADZZ Posts: 83
    edited September 2007
    That top pic looks like it's from GOW Raven Down map.
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  • PADZZ
    PADZZ Posts: 83
    edited September 2007
    Now I'm 100% sure that's from Gears of War.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited September 2007
    PADZZ wrote: »
    Now I'm 100% sure that's from Gears of War.

    Yes, it is.
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  • lanion
    lanion Posts: 843
    edited September 2007
    I don't know if Halo is the best example for good graphics.... Compare the best looking xbox game (Panzer Dragoon Orta, imo) and the differences arn't AS huge. Halo was clean graphics, but not detailed in any way.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited September 2007
    In my opinion, the graphics of Halo are pretty representative of the Xbox.
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited September 2007
    Maybe it would be a more fair comparison to show a screen of a map in Halo 3:

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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited September 2007
    Thats not the comparison I am trying to make.
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited September 2007
    It's not? I thought we were talking the graphical differences between Xbox and 360? Now I'm just confused. I figured using games in the same series, with the same graphic style, was a more fair comparison than with Gears, which has a totally different look to it.

    Regardless, it's good to see developers using the power of the new consoles to design better levels, not just to pretty them up and make them shiny.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited September 2007
    Comparing the same game isn't necessarily the best way to compare where we are vs where we were. It's a good way to show how far development in THAT GAME has come along, but not gaming in general. In order to do that, you'd probably want to look at the best overall graphics from different eras.

    I believe Halo was widely considered to be one of the better graphics games for the XBOX, and GoW is considered to be one of the better for the 360, although Bioshock is really nice also.
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited September 2007
    Well, the problem you get into with that is that it's subjective. For instance, a game can have great graphics on a technical level and still look like crap if the art style sucks (see Perfect Dark Zero). The difference in styles between the Halo series (which is futuristic but utilitarian) and Gears (which is modern architecture beat to hell, or "destroyed beauty" as they call it) makes it a bit iffy to me for comparison... whereas comparing from the same series shows a consistency in the design style while also showing what else they could eke out of the hardware to improve upon that same style. It shows what the same company and team can do with the same franchise on differing generations of hardware.

    But hey... it's all subjective anyway.
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