AVR 247 Question

2michaud
2michaud Posts: 132
edited August 2007 in Electronics
Does anybody know if I am able to bi-wire with the Harman/Kardon 247?

Dan
I think Bananas are awesome fruit.

HT: Polk Audio RTi8 x2, Polk Audio CSi5, Polk Audio FXi3 x2, Velodyne DPS-12, Harman/Kardon AVR 247, Samsung 245BW Moniter/TV, Yamaha S1700 DVD/SACD, BJC Optical Cable, 12 guage speaker cable, Monster Standard Subwoofer Cable, Monster Lightspeed 1000 Optical Cable, Z-Line component rack, APC SurgeArrest 11-outlet.

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  • bpgunning
    bpgunning Posts: 28
    edited August 2007
    as far as i'm aware, bi-wiring doesn't have anything to do with the receiver/amp. check out this link for more info: http://www.polkaudio.com/education/showanswer.php?question_num=53

    bi-wire separately sends identical signals to both the low and high frequency drivers on your speaker, which apparently provides much greater clarity. the only thing that can prevent you from bi-wiring are the binding posts on the speaker, not the receiver. if you have 2 pairs of binding posts on each speaker then you should be able to bi-wire them just fine, but remember to remove the jumpers. also do a search on this forum for bi-wire, it is sure to turn up alot of helpful results. i did alot of my research here before i made my purchases a few weeks ago :D
    My 2 ch. rig
    RTi10 Cherry (bi-wire)
    HK AVR 445
    Xbox 360 w/ HD-DVD attachment
    Not too bad for a dorm room I think? :D
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2007
    Bi wire or biamp?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • 2michaud
    2michaud Posts: 132
    edited August 2007
    But the problem is, if I get two wires running from each of my speakers to my amp, how do I connect them?
    I think Bananas are awesome fruit.

    HT: Polk Audio RTi8 x2, Polk Audio CSi5, Polk Audio FXi3 x2, Velodyne DPS-12, Harman/Kardon AVR 247, Samsung 245BW Moniter/TV, Yamaha S1700 DVD/SACD, BJC Optical Cable, 12 guage speaker cable, Monster Standard Subwoofer Cable, Monster Lightspeed 1000 Optical Cable, Z-Line component rack, APC SurgeArrest 11-outlet.

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  • MGPK
    MGPK Posts: 88
    edited August 2007
    If your receiver has multi-room out and front left and right pre-outs, I can give you instructions to passively bi-amp your system.
    System:

    H/K AVR430 Receiver
    Samsung DVDHD841 Dvd player
    Yamaha CDC506 5 Disc changer
    Jamo E855 Tower speakers
    Wharfdale Pacific P-10 Bookshelf speakers
    Acoustic Research Master Series Interconnects
  • bpgunning
    bpgunning Posts: 28
    edited August 2007
    to bi-wire you run both left negative terminals from the speaker into the one negative terminal for the front left channel on your receiver (same for left positive, right negative, right positive). it may be hard to do with fat wires, but you can find bi-wire cables for not huge $$. i got a pair on the bay for $52 shipped - 4 bananas on one end, 2 on the other. getting these kind of cables makes it really easy, but it can be done with regular speaker wire too.

    Brendan
    My 2 ch. rig
    RTi10 Cherry (bi-wire)
    HK AVR 445
    Xbox 360 w/ HD-DVD attachment
    Not too bad for a dorm room I think? :D
  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,071
    edited August 2007
    MGPK wrote: »
    If your receiver has multi-room out and front left and right pre-outs, I can give you instructions to passively bi-amp your system.


    don't bother, buy an amp and leave it at that. None of this what was the term used, Ghetto bi-amping ?!
  • 2michaud
    2michaud Posts: 132
    edited August 2007
    Well, I know that my amp will allow for one bananna plug on each terminal, and also allow for a bare wire to enter on each side. Would it work to run one length out of the bananna cable part, and then the other thorugh the bare wire? Is it even worth it on my system?

    Dan
    I think Bananas are awesome fruit.

    HT: Polk Audio RTi8 x2, Polk Audio CSi5, Polk Audio FXi3 x2, Velodyne DPS-12, Harman/Kardon AVR 247, Samsung 245BW Moniter/TV, Yamaha S1700 DVD/SACD, BJC Optical Cable, 12 guage speaker cable, Monster Standard Subwoofer Cable, Monster Lightspeed 1000 Optical Cable, Z-Line component rack, APC SurgeArrest 11-outlet.

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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited August 2007
    Alot of guys on here say not to but I used my B lines to bi amp my front towers and they sound great
    2 CHANNEL
    Speaker - Klipsch Heresy II
    Under construction
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,782
    edited August 2007
    Alot of guys on here say not to but I used my B lines to bi amp my front towers and they sound great

    If you mean the A/B speaker outputs, you are not bi-amping, you are bi-wiring. The outputs are usually tied together inside the amp/reciever, so it's no different than connecting two sets of wire to one set of binding posts.
  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited August 2007
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    If you mean the A/B speaker outputs, you are not bi-amping, you are bi-wiring. The outputs are usually tied together inside the amp/reciever, so it's no different than connecting two sets of wire to one set of binding posts.

    Actually my nad receiver that is not the case
    2 CHANNEL
    Speaker - Klipsch Heresy II
    Under construction
  • MGPK
    MGPK Posts: 88
    edited August 2007
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    If you mean the A/B speaker outputs, you are not bi-amping, you are bi-wiring. The outputs are usually tied together inside the amp/reciever, so it's no different than connecting two sets of wire to one set of binding posts.

    I hate to say it, but you're incorrect. The term is passive bi-amp or the new nomenclature term ghetto bi-amp:cool: . You're sending two amplified signals to your speakers but, from one shared amp. I've done it with my HK receiver, but it elevated the THD way too high. The best way and I'm sure most will agree is to use two separate amps.
    System:

    H/K AVR430 Receiver
    Samsung DVDHD841 Dvd player
    Yamaha CDC506 5 Disc changer
    Jamo E855 Tower speakers
    Wharfdale Pacific P-10 Bookshelf speakers
    Acoustic Research Master Series Interconnects