Totem Sub on Audiogon with weird claim...

SolidSqual

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?homesubw&1191279139

Would you pay $1195 for a half broken sub that retails for $1600? This guy thinks I should! Read below.

"Here's the deal with this sub. As you know there is a left right input for the sub and somtimes people use a jumper to go from one to the other, well the tip from the rca broke off in one side. I have talked Totem and they said you only need one of the inputs and it doesn't matter which. I use the sub and it's perfectly fine but you should be aware of this."

Essentially, he's saying Totem just added the RCA in Stereo for s**ts and giggles. My instinct tells me this would affect synergy and balance.

treitz3

Just a thought. You could use a small reamer to remove the pin easily. Use the fact that it is "busted" to influence a price drop. He did say OBO.;)

zombie boy 2000

That....
and zero feedback.

But it's my understanding that it should work fine. You should only lose about 3db by running a cable to a single input. But maybe I'm wrong.

SolidSqual

really . . . so it the bass signal the same out of each channel? That can't be . . . what about a big bass playing on the left of the soundstage with PAtricia BArber belting out a tune on the right? Wouldn't I miss the bass signal if the sub was hooked to right output?

zombie boy 2000

Ah.... I see what you're saying. I was thinking of a single sub output. Such as those found on AVR's. You're rolling with a second set of outputs on your preamp.

Nevermind then. Moving along.

tcrossma

I believe the bass signal is a mono signal and the two RCA's on the sub are merged internally. Whatever bass management you are using should join the bass coming from the L/R into one mono signal. If not, you could use a Y adapter and plug it into the good connector on the sub. Either way, it should be fine. I think. Maybe.

tim

jakelm

Its still USED!!!!

Priced way too high.

If I had the $1200 I would find or save the extra $400 and get it BRAND NEW.

SolidSqual

I agree. Overpiced. NO Rep. USED. Plus, who knows how it's been knocked around to lose an RCA plug. I own Totem. The stuff is built pretty solid.

RuSsMaN

That's a handsome subwoofer.

SolidSqual

She is a beaut. But, I can't bring myself to even begin bidding on a broken product.

jakelm

Now if it were $800 or $900, then yes I would deffinatly consider it.

SolidSqual

I just tested my theory on my own sub. Musical info. is lost. Unless you are listening to rap or a movie. The bass lines of certain cds are not equal across the soundstage. Thus, you need both plugs for the right experience. Granted I'm using my preamp outs and not an LFE out.

tcrossma

I don't know your setup or that particular sub. But if the sub doesn't combine the signals internally you could always just use a Y at the sub. Either way, it's only a single speaker so it shouldn't be necessary to feed it a stereo signal.

Gaara

Seems like a miscommunication between solid and tcross.

Solid, I know what you are saying, and there are devices that can combine the stereo out to mono for cheap if you ever were in such a situation.

Tcross, it is a normal setup with a normal sub it seems. What he is saying is he is using the L+R pre outs of his pre, which is why he would need 2 inputs. With one you have to choose L or R, and you miss the bass from the other side. Most people just use the sub out and have the bass crossed over, but if the sub is used just to enhance the fronts then it isn't so easy.

michael_w

It just has the tip stuck inside it. That shouldn't be too hard to pull out and as long as the actual jack isn't damaged it should be good to go.

SolidSqual

How bout we have everyone on this forum contribute a dollar to buy this thing. Then I'll ship it off to that guy who blends all sorts of things on YouTube with his HiSpeed/Powered Blenders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8H29jU8Wrs&mode=related&search=

tcrossma

Gaara wrote: »

Seems like a miscommunication between solid and tcross.

Solid, I know what you are saying, and there are devices that can combine the stereo out to mono for cheap if you ever were in such a situation.

Tcross, it is a normal setup with a normal sub it seems. What he is saying is he is using the L+R pre outs of his pre, which is why he would need 2 inputs. With one you have to choose L or R, and you miss the bass from the other side. Most people just use the sub out and have the bass crossed over, but if the sub is used just to enhance the fronts then it isn't so easy.

Ah, ok. But wouldn't you still be able to use a Y at the sub? L/R pre-outs to a Y to the single RCA at the sub? That wouldn't work?

Thanks,

tim