Rega P1 or Pro-Ject Debut III

wingnut4772
wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
edited August 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
Ok Finally. I am going to pull the trigger as my new (incoming) Pioneer Elite receiver has a phono stage (which actualy has received favorable mention believe it or not :eek: ). I am leaning toward the Pro-ject because.....well...because I can get it in pretty colors to match my HT. :o (I am a girl, dammit!:D ) but if the Rega is a substantially better player I will re-think this.

Also ...it's going to be about 12 feet from the Pre so I guess I will just need a couple of loooooong interconnects and that's it, right?
Sharp Elite 70
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited August 2007
    Heard good things about both of them.....I think either one will do just fine.

    12' IS a long set of IC's but, yeah, hook up to the phono stage and you are A-OK.


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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited August 2007
    Rega comes in pretty colors. too
    engtaz

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  • izafar
    izafar Posts: 819
    edited August 2007
    TroyD wrote: »
    12' IS a long set of IC's but, yeah, hook up to the phono stage and you are A-OK.
    BDT

    +1 on 12 foot cables. You don't want to put 12 foot of cables between your TT and your Pioneer Receiver. I also believe both of these tables come with short cable which is not changeable. You have to mod the table to put RCA output jacks on it to use any other cable. Your best bet would be to either put the table close to your AVR or use dedicated phono stage.
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited August 2007
    Yeah.... the Pro-ject's cable is "permanently" connected to the table. You would need an extension cable of some sort....
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited August 2007
    izafar wrote:
    I also believe both of these tables come with short cable which is not changeable.
    I can't speak for the other table, but on the Rega, it sure does have a short cable that is not changeable w/o modding. Approx. 2 and 1/2 feet. Doesn't matter to me, because they will be upgraded anyway. The stock connectors are Rat Shack in quality and even though the P1 is their entry level player, I was still a little surprised.

    I will be performing the mod soon, so if I run into a particular snag you should know about, I'll let you know.

    Added note, the Rega has a Ortofon cart.
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited August 2007
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Added note, the Rega has a Ortofon cart.

    Both tables do...
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited August 2007
    Hmmm....fixed cables eh....? I don't have room in the front to add the TT though - nor on the sides as my room is narrow. I got it! I need a new house!:D
    Sharp Elite 70
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    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited August 2007
    I've mentioned this before in other threads, but just in case you didn't catch it.

    You might also consider the Music Hall MMF-2.1. Unlike the other two, it has a tonearm with adjustable VTA.

    Just a heads up. Let us know what you decide. Enjoy!
    HT
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited August 2007
    I couldn't add to my turntable cable length without causing all sorts of sound quality issues. One possibility is to buy an outboard phono preamp and put within the reach of the TT leads then use a long interconnect from there to the aux input of your receiver. (They can be much longer because the signal is not so small).
    madmax
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited August 2007
    madmax wrote: »
    I couldn't add to my turntable cable length without causing all sorts of sound quality issues. One possibility is to buy an outboard phono preamp and put within the reach of the TT leads then use a long interconnect from there to the aux input of your receiver. (They can be much longer because the signal is not so small).
    madmax

    This is presenting a big problem. I have no room.:(
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited August 2007
    I feel for you, I needed to make mine longer because of the same reason. Not being able to add to the cart output cable is somewhat an unknown to me as I don't know what others have done. Didn't work for me though.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited August 2007
    I would be very leary of increasing the length of that phono cable. Every phono cable or audio lead, if you will, I have ever purchased and I've purchased some pretty high end audio leads (SME's is the most recent) are always short. I think there is more to this than just saving money on the manufacturers end. I believe if there is a cable or system susceptable to noise and interferences it would be the phono to preamp link. The SME audio lead comes with directions to make a 360 degree loop just before the tonearm pillar to make sure that any vibrations or motor noise or vibration is trapped in the loop rather than continuing up to the tonearm.

    Imagine how much vibration and interference a 12' cable would pick up and then generate or amplify more noise.

    These are not cold hard facts, just some thinking out loud on my part.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited August 2007
    Yea, I have tapped on my phono cables and it sounds just like tapping on the top of the head shell. Very microphonic.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited August 2007
    Dadgummit! Back to the drawing board!
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited August 2007
    I looked into getting a table, and I am going to wait a little until I can afford something in the area of the Rega P9....That doesn't mean I can't start collecting vinyl! hehehe....Someday I will not be in the suck anymore....
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